Updated 11:59 pm.EST, Fri November 20, 2009

Society|Fri, Sep. 25 2009 10:31 AM EDT

Conservative Black Pastors Endorse Obama's Health Care Plan

By Jennifer Riley|Christian Post Reporter

A group of pro-life black pastors are showing their support for President Obama’s health care plan, though conservative public policy experts note that such a plan remains nowhere in sight.

Bishop Charles E. Blake Sr., who heads the six million-member Church of God in Christ, and the group of black ministers endorsed the president’s controversial health care overhaul Thursday but was careful to reiterate Obama's no-abortion-funding pledge while cautioning the White House against breaking its promise.

"In accord with our commitment to Christian teaching, we wholeheartedly affirm the president's position that medical costs related to the abortion of fetuses shall not be covered by health care plans funded by this initiative," Blake said, according to a copy of his remarks, first released to the Los Angeles Times.

While the anti-abortion pastors’ endorsement could give a much-needed boost to the embattled health care bills in Congress, several prominent pro-life activists doubt the pastors will support the Obama administration for long.

Douglas Johnson, legislative director for National Right to Life, told the LA Times, “From what the pastors are saying, it sounds like what they want to do is what we want to do – which is to ensure that these new plans not cover elective abortions.”

But, as Barrett Duke of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission recently noted, the features that Obama has described in “my plan” and “my health care proposal” do not exist in any of the bills Congress is working on.

“I don’t know what plan the president is talking about,” Duke wrote in a column last week. “They (the features) aren’t in the liberal Democrats’ bills. They aren’t in any bill from the Blue Dog Democrats, who haven’t written one. They aren’t in the Republicans’ bills, and there are at least five that Republicans are trying to get people to notice.”

And when it comes to Obama’s claim that “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place” under his plan, Duke pointed out that this hasn’t been seen in any of the bills that the Democrats have been working on.

“In fact, most of them have resisted every effort to put language in their bills guaranteeing that no federal funds would be spent on abortion. I was more surprised by the president’s affirmation that conscience laws will remain in place since he already has ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to start weakening conscience protections for health care practitioners," the public policy expert added. "I really would like to see this language in the President’s plan.”

For months, conservatives have been waging a fierce battle against the health care bills in Congress on the belief that they would allow the government to pay for abortions.

Still, some Democratic leaders and President Obama have maintained that the bills allow for no such thing. They claim that people who want abortion to be covered by their government-run health insurance have to pay a premium.

Pro-life groups, however, argue that premiums for abortion coverage end up in a government pool of money and it is the government that receives and pays the bill for the procedure. They contend that essentially the government is paying for the abortion.

They also note that some Democratic lawmakers have publicly stated that the House bill would fund abortions and have gone against their own party to vote against the legislation.

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who in July proposed an amendment to prevent mandatory abortion coverage in public or private plan, said in an August issue of Time magazine that President Obama either doesn’t understand the bill or “if he is aware of it, and he is making these statements (about abortion coverage), then he is misleading people.”

Regarding the endorsement by Bishop Blake and other pro-life clergy, NRLC’s Johnson suggested the ministers join the efforts of other pro-life groups to pass amendments that would ban any government funding of abortions under any new health care legislation.

A September survey by Rasmussen Reports shows most Americans (48 percent) believe any government-subsidized health care plan should be prohibited from covering abortion procedures.

Christian Post Reporter Eric Young in San Francisco contributed to this article.

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  • Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:29 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Offering a public option - where the government is definitely a player - would make health care reform more centrist.

    Actually, it would make it COMMUNISTIC. Or maybe FACIST, but not centrist.

  • Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:51 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    The sad part here is that these men are black first, and disciples second. How can anyone back anything this man has to say, when his first act as President was to sign the Freedom of Choice Act? He is for unregulated abortion, and they vote for him? What a crime!!

  • Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:23 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Currently my impression is that the Baucus proposal is *right*-wing, in that it requires people to buy insurance, but does not offer them an option that is independent of the plutocratic insurance cartel.

    Offering a public option - where the government is definitely a player - would make health care reform more centrist.

  • Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:20 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Personally, I am not impressed with the current proposal from Senator Baucus, because it does not include a public option.

    My impression is that the public option is critical to health care reforme bcause it will force insurance companies to improve their own efficiency. Currently the are acting as an inefficient cartel, almost as if they were a monopoly. I don't like it! :P

  • Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:14 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Medicare is for people over 65. My hope for health care reform is to approach something in the direction of Medicare for the rest of us.

    I recognize that at best we will get only 10% or 20% of the way there, but that would still help.

  • Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:11 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Medicare provides a much more efficient and affordable approach to health insurance than the insurance companies.

  • Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:08 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Hey Daniel, hope you're doing well. OK so what we're talking about is whether it is appropriate under *any* circumstances for the government to be involved in providing health care insurance.

    If I understand correctly, you are saying that in *all* circumstances, this is unacceptable.

    I don't think you're being honest with yourself.

    If you actually believed that, then you would be opposed to Medicare. I'll bet you're not opposed to Medicare; if you are, I'll guarantee that you won't be once you become eligible for it. Medicare is one of the most wildly popular government programs in the U.S., and the government is definitely acting as a "player," not a referee.

  • Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "The legislative branch (Congress) DECIDES what the rules are. The rules often call for government itself to implement the rules, and that's what the executive branch does. "

    Yep. That's right. They make the rules. They implement the rules. They enforce the rules. They do NOT play in the game.

    Nice try though....

  • Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:53 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Obviously we did do that to some extent under the Cheney administration when Halliburton (Cheney's company) comandeered the American military as well as requiring members of the National Guard in each state to invade Iraq so that Halliburton could obtain rights to the oil in Iraq.

    But that's not the way things are supposed to be. :-)

  • Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:45 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 3

    For example, if you were right, there would be no U.S. military. Instead, private companies like Enron, Halliburton, Reynolds Tobacco, and Procter and Gamble would have their own armies and would invade U.S. cities or other countries to take over and do whatever they felt like doing.

    If the function of the government was only to be a referee, and not a player, then there would be no Congress and no executive (which includes the military). There would only be judges to decide whether Halliburton, Enron, or Procter and Gamble wins the right to run the state of South Carolina.

  • Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:00 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 4

    DP wrote: "Government is to be the refs in America and not a player."

    Sorry Daniel, but that is just not true. Yes, the judicial branch are the referees, but there are two other branches in government.

    The legislative branch (Congress) DECIDES what the rules are. The rules often call for government itself to implement the rules, and that's what the executive branch does.

  • Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:30 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 4

    The refs are not suppose to play in the game. That ruins the game. Government is to be the refs in America and not a player....

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:57 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    Flagged as inappropriate. show I wonder how the Obama care plan will accommodate the religious that don't believe in medical treatments - they'll be paying lots of money for nothing. Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance. Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold." hide

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:05 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    IHS: I'm pretty sure Hammer is a born again Christian.

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:54 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 3

    Once upon a time, not too long ago, a fox and a chicken were on a journey. Then one day they came to a river. The chicken said "I can't swim." "No problem," says the fox, "I can swim and I will carry you in my mouth." "Oh, I don't think that is a very good idea," says the chicken, "for the minute I was in your mouth, and you tasted me, you would eat me up."
    "You are absolutely right," says the fox, "the temptation would be too great for me. So, I will swim and you can perch yourself on my tail." "Splendid, idea!" says the chicken. And on she hops and off they go.
    Now when they were about a half of the way across the river, the fox says to the chicken, "this is harder to swim than I thought. It is taking too much energy to hold my tail up out of the water, so you will have to ride on my back." "Okay," says the chicken and she hops onto his back.
    When they are just about to the other side the fox says, "I have been arching my back to provide a place for you to sit and I cannot do it much longer, you will have to sit on the top of my head, so that I can finish this last little bit of river." "All right," says the chicken and hops onto his head.
    "Ah," says the fox "the temptation is too great." And he flips his head up, opens his mouth and swallows the chicken.

  • IHS »
    Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:55 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 9

    Are those Pastors or MC Hammer's back up dancers?
    Same clothing and bling bling!

    It is sad when a Pastor wear's the same suit and bling as a wrapper!

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:50 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 3

    Gee, how surprising...never would've pegged them to back Obama.

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:42 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 5

    " but was careful to echo Obama's no-abortion-funding pledge while cautioning the White House against breaking its promise."

    Oh...right...Obama has been great at keeping his word....

  • Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:08 am Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

    "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24

    Oooo, all that gnashing of teeth that will be taking place.

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