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Church|Thu, Nov. 05 2009 10:03 AM EDT

Ted Haggard to Host Prayer Gathering

By Joshua Goldberg|Christian Post Reporter

Disgraced church leader Ted Haggard will be holding a gathering of a dozen or so people in his living room next week as part of an effort to connect with friends and help people.

The gathering, scheduled for next Thursday evening, is being referred to by Haggard as a “prayer meeting” but could be called a church, according to his statement to the Colorado Springs Gazette.

 Though Haggard’s latest move has raised eyebrows, the former megachurch leader says he has no intention to do what he had done with New Life Church, which started from his basement and grew to become one of the nation’s most prominent churches.

While he says his focus before was on the Great Commission, Haggard says his aim now is to help other people.

During next Thursday’s gathering, Haggard will talk about the power of prayer and an offering will be collected for New Life Church. There will also be music.

"It's an exploratory meeting," Haggard told The Denver Post. "We need a core team to relate to as a spiritual family. We expect just a handful of people, but anybody's welcome. We'll see where it goes."

Wednesday’s announcement comes nearly three years after a drugs and sex scandal led to Haggard's resignation from the presidency of the National Association of Evangelicals and forced him out of the church he founded.

Since then, Haggard and his family have mostly been in seclusion, coming back out over the past year to promote “The Trials of Ted Haggard,” which debuted on HBO late January and aired throughout the month of February.

Haggard currently works as an insurance salesman and lives in Colorado Springs with his wife of 30 years and two of his five children. The Haggards' remaining three children are over the age of 18.

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  • Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, and Bob Allen are a few examples of what happens when gay men marry women. They deny the truth, pretend to be something they are not, and eventually their true nature comes out in unhealthy ways. It's really sad.

    If all gay men would have the courage to face the truth, instead of entering sham marriages to appease others, there wouldn't be suburban fathers cruising urban parks at night for illicit gay sex.

  • Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:14 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Ted Haggard and other Christian leaders who blatantly deceive their congregations do not deserve any recognition or breaks whatsoever. This is not a question of Christian Forgiveness, but rather human accountablity. These leaders chose to use Christianity as a business and stayed in their leadership postions while deceiving the people and receiving compensation. I am hard pressed to feel sorry for people like Ted, especially when i see Christian preachers in other countries being martyred for their faith.

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:42 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Hey Gibbs...

    "As usual the trolls have things backwards."

    I thought that was the gays? Make your mind up.....

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:39 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    GIBBONS & Christians Here: I am once again going to exhort you. If you feel the need to reply to the posts of the non-believers here...and if the post you are replying to is not part of a civil discourse.... refrain from engaging them. Vitriole on both our parts takes up alot of time and takes time away from ebgeging the issues.

    We all realize why people come here. All our motives need not be discussed... they are known by the fruits of their lips. Scripture says.... even a fool who keeps quiet at the right time is thought wise.... How about for those who search for wisdom also learning that discretion IS the better part of wisdom.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:30 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    To cowardly, whining Gibbons. Give it up. Your posts are usually vile and filled with lies. No wonder people flag you.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:06 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Gibbons, how can you be so incessantly full of yourself?

    Your seething pomposity just drips out of you. You simply can't stand anything you don't personally approve of. Get over yourself! Your vain arrogance makes me want to puke. Man, I feel sorry for your kids.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:30 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    To the cowardly flaggers,

    There are sad, pathetic souls, who can't form a point of view, and so flag comments they disagree with. And like cowards, they flag comments without claiming responsibility.

    If you flag posts because you disagree with them, from what I've seen, all of 'your' posts will likely get flagged - forever.

    Never flag and we'll get to read all the ridiculous things others say (if you disagree) or all the pearls of wisdom (if you agree) - and no matter what side you're on, you'll get to read your favorite posters' comments without having to click on "show".

    1) Stop flagging and: we'll all get to read everyone's posts, good or bad.

    2) Keep flagging and: all your posts will get flagged, and you'll have to click on 'show' to see your friends' posts.

    It's your choice. If you've been here long enough to see what happens to people who frequently flag, you'll pick #1 and never flag.
    If you're either new or just plain stupid (you know one of those people who never gets it, ever since they were a kid), you'll pick #2.

    TGF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "For the Christians... Christ is clear... we are not to throw pearls among swine.... when is enough going to be enough in exhorting the heathens here?" jar1961

    Christians should flag the most vile posters on sight and without further comment, rather than encouraging their disruptive behavior (ie. repeatedly posting obscene comments and flagging fellow Christians), by constantly arguing with them over the same truths in God's Word whom they ridicule.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:30 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show On flagging Christians on a Christian website - THIS IS a Christian website, for Christians and others to discuss events relating to Christianity and religious affairs. We are against homosexual sex acts, but we think they are entitled to talk freely without disruption on (homosexual) websites set up for that purpose. THAT is freedom of speech. Similarly, we believe that homosexuals should not come to a Christian website and flag any Christians for any reason, and give a post multiple thumbs down to try and fool us into believing that many people disagree lol. Homosexuals shouldn't come to a Christian website to attack and disrupt Christians trying to exercise their freedom of speech. I would never go to a homosexual website, give myself an offensive name, and then start flagging the homosexuals for saying things that a normal person would expect homosexuals to say to a Christian with the stupidity to come to a homosexual site to attack and disrupt them. TGF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flagged as inappropriate means inappropriate for a Christian website, not inappropriate for any website and not disagreeable to you. hide

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:28 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    As usual the trolls have things backwards.

    Christians come here to discuss the published news items. When Christians post the type of comments that Christians would be expected to post concerning the news, vomitous perverts hurl vile and obscene responses, click on 'Disagree' more than one time per troll to make fools think a greater number disagreed than actually did, and flag more times than you could shake a fist.

    Then while lying in their mothers' basements, crying until their mascara blends with their mothers' lipstick, they accuse Christians of making anti-homosexual comments which 'they' are forced to fight back against.

    Homopervians - no one is forcing you to come to a Christian website, where issues are discussed from a Christian viewpoint. If you're not interested in the Christian viewpoint, then this is an queer place to be.

    Does anyone have any idea why this half a dozen sickening homopervians keep coming to this site everyday, all day?

    TGF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "For the Christians... Christ is clear... we are not to throw pearls among swine.... when is enough going to be enough in exhorting the heathens here?" jar1961

    Christians should flag the most vile posters on sight and without further comment, rather than encouraging their disruptive behavior (ie. repeatedly posting obscene comments and flagging fellow Christians), by constantly arguing with them over the same truths in God's Word whom they ridicule.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:27 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show It isn't certain that he's been cured yet, is it? He shouldn't be trying to help other people come to Christ and be healed, and be in a leadership position, until it is certain that he's been cured and is no longer wanting to commit homosexual sex acts in his basement. TGF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the most loving things you can do is to help a homosexual repent and become a normal person again. Voice your concerns with your elected representatives that they are doing far too little to ensure there is enough counseling clinics for those who wish to get cured of this filthy habit. hide

  • Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    P.S. Never flag in zeal! - Romans 12:11

  • Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "recopy it, re-post it and delete the flagged entry."

    Good idea, yes. Can I offer another suggestion? My impression is that the moderators have banned some people - either temporarily or permanently - for unreasonable flagging. Behind the scenes, they can tell who did the flagging.

    I have seen several posters disappear (temporarily or permanently) after spates of flagging that I am pretty sure they were responsible for.

    Therefore when you re-post a flagged post, I recommend you *leave* the flagged posts in place so that you have a trail so the moderators can see who is doing the flagging.

    The obvious word to the wise is also likewise: Don't flag.

    Once in a blue moon you may see something abusive enough to warrant flagging, but if you overdo it, you are liabelst to get banned.

    Personally I would prefer that they remove the flagging feature altogether. It seems to me that it is almost never used for appropriate purposes (e.g., removing threats), but only in order to antagonize people.

  • Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:01 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Good for you Garageguy. Every time Gibbons or anyone else flags you, just recopy it, re-post it and delete the flagged entry. If these people think they have the last word on censorship, they have another think coming.

  • Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:52 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    Gibbons writes: "If you're not interested in the Christian viewpoint, then this is an queer place to be."

    Oh but Gibbons, I am most interested indeed of the christian viewpoint. If you are any indication, christians use terms like "vomitous perverts," "trolls," and "homopervians" to describe gay citizens, who by the way never did a thing to you. Interesting. Congratulations on what your "religion" has turned you into.

  • Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:49 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    "Homosexuals shouldn't come to a Christian website to attack and disrupt Christians trying to exercise their freedom of speech."

    Get over yourself, Gibbons. We all have free speech, not just holier-than-thou christians like you. And when said holier-than-thou christians speak with malice, bigotry, or hate against gay people, I don't see why it should surprise you that gay people would speak back. On a PUBLIC forum.

  • Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:37 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "As usual the trolls have things backwards."

    Yes, and as the lead troll, thanks for admitting that about yourself.

  • Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:36 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    Flagged as inappropriate. show As usual the trolls have things backwards. Christians come here to discuss the published news items. When Christians post the type of comments that Christians would be expected to post concerning the news, vomitous perverts hurl vile and obscene responses, click on 'Disagree' more than one time per troll to make fools think a greater number disagreed than actually did, and flag more times than you could shake a fist. Then while lying in their mothers' basements, crying until their mascara blends with their mothers' lipstick, they accuse Christians of making anti-homosexual comments which 'they' are forced to fight back against. Homopervians - no one is forcing you to come to a Christian website, where issues are discussed from a Christian viewpoint. If you're not interested in the Christian viewpoint, then this is an queer place to be. Does anyone have any idea why this half a dozen sickening homopervians keep coming to this site everyday, all day? TGF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For the Christians... Christ is clear... we are not to throw pearls among swine.... when is enough going to be enough in exhorting the heathens here?" jar1961 Christians should flag the most vile posters on sight and without further comment, rather than encouraging their disruptive behavior (ie. repeatedly posting obscene comments and flagging fellow Christians), by constantly arguing with them over the same truths in God's Word whom they ridicule. hide

  • Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:28 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show The link to this was right above the link to an article about a Planned Parenthood clinic director who resigned after viewing a sonogram video of an abortion. (I wondered if she would have resigned as the warden of a prison after witnesssing an execution.) It occurred to me that it was too bad Haggard and/or Mike Jones (the prostitute that outed the Reverend) hadn't videorecorded their trysts. If gay men could view a video of Ted and his BoyToy in action and NOT renounce their gayness, it would prove it is not a choice. hide

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:35 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    I can guess what he'll be praying for. LOL

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:46 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Your right gg, he is gay, until he admits this to himself and stops living this lie, his life will not start to have some sembalence of normality. I feel really sorry for his wife that she has to put up with this charade, but even more annoyed that there are people who visit this site who would want this charade to continue, just to support this so called moral stance, but then, they care little for people and there well being really. hide

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:20 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    "He shouldn't be trying to help other people come to Christ and be healed, and be in a leadership position, until it is certain that he's been cured and is no longer wanting to commit homosexual sex acts in his basement."

    Not sure what you mean by 'cured' but I doubt old Teddy is going to have any gay sex for a while. That poor duped wife is gonna watch him like a hawk.

    As for his sexual orientation, he is gay. Always was, always will be. Just like straight people will always be straight.

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:05 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "I would never go to a homosexual website, give myself an offensive name, and then start flagging the homosexuals for saying things that a normal person would expect homosexuals to say to a Christian with the stupidity to come to a homosexual site to attack and disrupt them."

    Just out of curiosity, how do you know they have a flagging system on those sites?

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    rj78-I didn't hang out with gay priests-I was raised catholic and was around them every weekend
    It's funny how you liken a normal human condition (masterbation) with "abusing yourself"-feel bad for you!!
    You';re right and wrong--I was not disparaging Jesus' character-I was just stating an opinion on how silly it seems that he became man, but wasn't really a man...it doesn't make sense..normal human conditions like sexuality aren't insults...
    RaeJae-I think prophet was genuinely amused-remember, God invented senses of humor :-)

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:15 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 3

    Homosexuals shouldn't come to a Christian website to attack and disrupt Christians trying to exercise their freedom of speech.
    I would never go to a homosexual website, give myself an offensive name, and then start flagging the homosexuals for saying things that a normal person would expect homosexuals to say to a Christian with the stupidity to come to a homosexual site to attack and disrupt them.

    TGF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "For the Christians... Christ is clear... we are not to throw pearls among swine.... when is enough going to be enough in exhorting the heathens here?" jar1961

    Christians should flag the most vile posters on sight and without further comment, rather than encouraging their disruptive behavior (ie. repeatedly posting obscene comments and flagging fellow Christians), by constantly arguing with them over the same truths in God's Word whom they ridicule.

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:15 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show It isn't certain that he's been cured yet, is it? He shouldn't be trying to help other people come to Christ and be healed, and be in a leadership position, until it is certain that he's been cured and is no longer wanting to commit homosexual sex acts in his basement. TGF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the most loving things you can do is to help a homosexual repent and become a normal person again. Voice your concerns with your elected representatives that they are doing far too little to ensure there is enough counseling clinics for those who wish to get cured of this filthy habit. hide

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:07 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Oooo this is creepy. A homo church?

    TGF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    One of the most loving things you can do is to help a homosexual repent and become a normal person again.

  • Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:19 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Sorry, but I really do have to laugh at Norman's post. I like a person with a sense of humor."

    Prophet, you're being sarcastic, yes?

  • Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:42 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Oooo this is creepy. A homo church? TGF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the most loving things you can do is to help a homosexual repent and become a normal person again. hide

  • Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:17 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    "Liberals are amazing people"

    Why thank you believer...

    :-p

  • Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:19 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Liberals are amazing people, they continually scream that Conservative Christians are judgemental as they sit around judging others!!

  • Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:33 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    yeah and not forgetting the waiting for the coming of the Lord. But seriously, it would just be easier all round if Ted just came out, I think we are all agreed on that, his obvious homosexuality really is the elephant in the room.

  • Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:23 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    Wow - gives a whole new creepy meaning to the phrase "every knee shall bow".....

  • Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Sorry, but I really do have to laugh at Norman's post. I like a person with a sense of humor.

  • Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:51 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Norman: If Bible quotes "creep you out", I suggest that you investigate the reason. Start with John 16:7-11.
    "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged."

    We also see Romans 10:17 "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ."

    So what can you learn from your discomfort in hearing the Word of the Lord? That the Holy Spirit is convincing you that you are indeed a sinner in need of salvation! That is FANTASTIC news! If you keep coming back here, you will hear MORE of His Word, and you will receive faith. After faith comes acceptance of Christ's sacrifice, thus salvation.

    But I urge you, do not delay too long. You know not the day of your death. And I also urge you to avoid evil rhetoric toward my Saviour (and your potential Saviour. Galatians 6:7: "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. "

    Keep hanging around. You'll become one of us sooner or later-hopefully, sooner!

  • rj78 »
    Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    Norman-

    Wrong again! First, why would you hang out with gay priests?

    Secondly, no evidence exists that Christ abused Himself or had sex with Mary Magdalene. The Nicene Council dealt with Christ's divinity, not His relations (sexual or otherwise) with people. The Nicean creed was based on existing documents and none were omitted.

    Christ said that even looking at a woman with lust equated to sleeping with her . So, if Christ sinned-and masturbation and fornication are sins-then God would not have accepted His atonement on the cross.

    Finally, stop casting aspersions on Christ's character. You admit yourself that you have no proof for what you say. This is a Christian website. Respect what the beliefs of those who follow Christ.

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:36 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show blacksho-I've known quit a few priests-most are gay! but who cares pretty sure jesus had sex or at least masterbated-nothing worng with that. the cellibacy stuff and divine birth were added later to make him seem more god like come on-humans are sexual creatrures-many documents suggest that mary magdalene was Jesus lover but they were excised at council of nicaea no offense, but all the bible quotes are creeping me out!!~ hide

  • rj78 »
    Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:01 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Haggard has no rght to criticize any Christian at any time or any place.

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:54 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

    Norman: "Gays can be cellibate-majority of priests are gay and I think most play by those rules..." I doubt MOST RC priests are gay-but I'll accept your statement that gays can be celibate, because I think it to be true.

    Let's think this through, then. Our Lord was tempted by Satan. We know that He is without sin, so we know, then, that temptation is not a sin. We can assume that He was tempted sexually, too. See 1 Cor 10:13 " No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man". Again, we see that to be tempted is not a sin. Sin, then, must be in the action upon that temptation. Corinthians, again: "No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it."

    The second clause is in agreement with our statement that it IS possible to be celibate.

    So, then, we also see that it IS in agreement with Christian doctrine that a man who desires to lie with another man CAN minister to others, if he is celibate, and it is entirely possible and biblical to BE celibate.

    The solution to the sin problem is to repent, and be baptized, and sin no more.

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:31 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    "let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7-11.

    Ah, yes, the favorite verse of those who wish to call good that which is bad. Do you remember what He told the adulterous woman?

    "Go, and sin no more!"

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:28 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Flagged as inappropriate. show blacksho- Gays can be cellibate-majority of priests are gay and I think most play by those rules... Yes, the state issues marriage licenses . Unless you're following the NT or OT, everyone is exempt from those rules (not just gays-about 70% of the world is "exempt "actually since majority of the world is not christian) No, heteros only need to be cellibate outside marraige if they follow church rules. Most people, even those professing to be christian, do not remain cellibate until marraige-that is actually an unreasonable ideal because cellibacy is unnatural for human beings (all aniamls actually) hide

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I can't believe the type of non-Christ like comments being posted here.

    The lot of you will find yourselves in the goat line on judgement day.

    Remember what Paul said after warning that homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom of God in 1 Cor. 6:9. If you'd read to verse 11 you'd read this...

    "And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

    Or perhaps what Jesus said to the Pharisees who wanted to stone the adulteress woman, "let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7-11.

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:00 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    There should be police around, just to make sure he doesn't try to give anyone who shows up a "backrub."

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Norman: "according to christian doctrine, God would not have a homosexual lead any church"
    So, if I am hearing you correctly-and please correct me if I am wrong-the homosexual theology is thus:

    Homosexuality is inborn, as is heterosexuality.
    Heterosexual pastors are allowed, as they can either be married in a one man, one woman relationship, as God commands, or be celibate, as Paul offers as an alternative.

    Homosexuals, on the other hand, are incapable of being celibate, and are therefore exempt from all of the OT and NT commands against sexual immorality.

    And since the State offers marriage licenses, it is the right of the State-NOT GOD-to define marriage. Once the State was formed, it gained the right to override God's law. This means (again!) that homosexuals are exempted from all OT and NT prohibitions against sexual immorality.

    Heterosexuals, OTOH, must remain above reproach at all times, and remain celibate outside of marriage, until such time as the State allows polygamous marriage.

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:53 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    How his disgraced career should be viewed is more up to God than anyone else. I don't know what to think of this article to be honest...

  • Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:46 am Agree: 7   Disagree: 2

    Aside from drugs and gay sex, I guess you can add "the spotlight" to Ted's list of addictions. I agree with an earlier comment: He needs more counseling. Of course God forgives any truly repentant child of His, but that doesn't mean restoration to public ministry is automatic. Plus this development seems too rapid.

  • Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:22 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 3

    norman, there is a difference between a Christian who is living in sin and one who is dealing with their sin. As there is a difference between a person who is trying to have victory over same-sex attractions and one who is simply giving into those temptations. As jester said, if God is indeed leading Ted Haggard back into the ministry then who are we to say no to God. Can I say with all certainty this is of God, no, but I certainly can't say this isn't of God either!

  • Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:49 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    On one hand, I want to revel in his misery given how much hate and misery he has spread against gay folks. But its so sad to see this broken man struggling with his issues and being shunned by the very community that claimed it loved him. I keep him in my prayers.

  • Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    ok, jar jar binks. we all know that your god is weak, but the one true God can do anything and change anyone. sorry.

  • Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:22 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    Some people are like the whack-a-mole at Chuck E.Cheese. No matter
    what, they keep popping up.

  • Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:29 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show JAR1961 Thanks for being civil Please do not let your predilection of being against righteous indignation of the gay community toward christians result in arrogant/lofty replies :-) I am glad that hypocrisy within your community is dealt with!! jesters-according to christian doctrine, God would not have a homosexual lead any church so your hypothesis cannot ever happen (in all seriousness, there is no "cure" for gay-peopel are gay-whether they have sex or not does not change that fact) hide

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