Updated 02:59 pm.EST, Fri November 20, 2009

Society|Thu, Nov. 12 2009 04:16 PM EDT

D.C. Committee Passes Same-Sex Marriage Bill

By Ethan Cole|Christian Post Reporter

WASHINGTON – A D.C. Council Committee passed a bill Tuesday that would legalize same-sex marriage in the federal district while also providing an exemption for religious groups.

In a 4-1 vote, the D.C. Council Committee on Public Safety and the Judiciary passed the “Religious Freedom and Civil Marriage Equality Amendment Act of 2009,” which provides exemption to religious organizations – including churches, schools and nonprofits – to deny “services, accommodations, facilities, or goods for a purpose related to the solemnization or celebration of a same-sex marriage.”

On Nov. 17, the bill, 18-482, will go to the Committee of the Whole, where it will be put on the agenda for the full council to debate in early December.

Though the proposed amendment allows religious organizations to refuse to promote same-sex marriage through religious programs, counseling, courses or retreats, some churches in the District of Columbia are not satisfied with it.

The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said that while the bill exempts religious organizations from performing and providing space for same-sex marriages, it requires them to adhere to city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay men and women.

Among the changes the archdiocese fears will be possible under the bill is the forced extension of employee benefits to same-sex married couples.

“It is our concern that the committee’s narrowing of the religious exemption language will cause the government to discontinue our long partnership with them and open up the agency to litigation and the use of resources to defend our religious beliefs rather than serve the poor,” explained Edward Orzechowski, president and CEO of Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington.

As a response, the Catholic archdiocese has threatened to stop the social service programs it runs for the district unless the proposed law is changed.

The archdiocese warned that if it stopped its social services, tens of thousands of people it helps through programs dealing with adoption, homelessness and health care will be affected.

Catholic Charities reportedly serves 68,000 people in the city each year. The city’s 40 Catholic parishes, meanwhile, operate another 93 social service programs to provide crucial services.

Despite protests, the bill is expected to easily pass, giving same-sex couples both the option to marry or enter a domestic partnership – a first in the nation.

The District of Columbia has recognized domestic partnerships since 1992.

Earlier this year, the D.C. Council unanimously voted to recognize gay and lesbian marriages performed elsewhere.

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  • Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:17 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Thanks for sharing that story TL. I gave you thumbs up :-)

    Obviously I agree with Gguy and Mickey that there are still some problems - overall, he probably sees Christians in a more negative light because of your eventual statement - but at least you were making some favorable effort at other times. Keep working on it.

    Everybody have a great day!

  • Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:09 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    "I think any gay person with a decent amount of self respect will not accept anti-gay ANYTHING (or anyone) in their life. We did not choose this trait. None of us should accept being treated as 2nd class because of it."

    Amen, Garageguy and America is slowly changing to see it that way. There may have been set backs, but there were in the 1960s as well. Keep fighting and you'll be surprised how soon things will change.

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:46 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    TLChild, I really appreciate your standing up against discrimination. You are right, there is simply no excuse for it.

    As to your friend in college, based on similar experiences I've had being on his side of it, I can guess what impact you had. When similar things happened to me, once I found out that person (you) harbored any kind of anti-gay beliefs (no adoption rights, no marriage rights, etc.) I never saw them in the same way again. I'm sorry to say it, but if that guy had been me, you would have down-graded my view of christianity because I would see it as the reason for your anti-gay beliefs. I would have appreciated the good times prior to that, but would have been very saddened to know how you really feel. Saddened both for myself but also for you becaue you embraced a belief system that made you treat people that way, and think of them that way, even though they have done no harm to you.

    I think any gay person with a decent amount of self respect will not accept anti-gay ANYTHING (or anyone) in their life. We did not choose this trait. None of us should accept being treated as 2nd class because of it.

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:10 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Cont.

    I believe that if homosexuals have the skills and talent to perform a job and assist, then they should be hired. Most homosexuals do not talk about their sex life in front of others just like heterosexuals. Therefore, if homosexuals have enough respect to keep their private lives to themselves, just like heterosexuals should, then why wouldn't someone hire them to do a job, help give a plate of food to some hungry person, assist with giving a box of clothes to poor people, etc. My prayer is that Christians realize that no sin is greater than the next, Yahweh sees them all in the same manner. I am happy that Yahshua demonstrated compassion to sinners, and many people who were considered a sinner in the Bible did very heroic and compassionate things like Rahab the harlot. However, if Joshua ignored her and refused to accept her assistance, I do not know how the story would have ended, although I know that Yahweh would have provided another escape for them. Nevertheless, the point is, a harlot assisted them.

    I always remember these verses that Yahshua spoke, notice it said good works and not good words:

    Matthew 5:15-16: "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. "

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:09 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Norman,

    I agree with you in regards to it is not right to stop helping needy people in order to discriminate. The Bible is clear that Christians should let their light shine. Although I do not agree with homosexuality and I believe that the Bible speaks against the lifestyle. However, I would never discriminate against someone because of their sexual preference. I do not know if I am reading the article correctly, but someone can help me out. Is the RCC stating that they would not hire homosexuals to help serve the needy, assist them with providing clothes to the needy, or any other special assistance the church may need?

    However, if this is the case, that is sad. Homosexuals are people too who struggle with their sexual preferences just like heterosexuals who struggle with their sexual needs and wants. I do not understand why christians treat homosexuals like they have some type of disease. I always believe that love and showing people kindness most of the time help people see the truth. Therefore, Christians should speak up when it comes to the Word of Yahweh, but at the same time, have compassion for others. When I was in undergrad, I would always talk to this guy who is a homosexual, and since the topic did not come up as to what we believe in, I never told him. I was just always kind to the guy, we would laugh together, and I would be happy when we had classes together. We had Spanish and Sociology classes together. Nevertheless, one day when we were in our sociology class, the subject came up about raising children, and I finally voiced my opinion in regards to homosexuality. This guy was shocked by the expression on his face, and I guess he could not believe how nice I was to him, although I disagreed with his lifestyle. We still were cordial after our classes were over; also, it was nice talking with him because he was very handsome--sorry, I am digressing.

    The point I am trying to convey is, I will never know what impact I had on that guy's life, because I was nice to him and treated him with compassion--he may look at christians in a different light. Furthermore, he could actually want to listen to us because of how I treated him.

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:31 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    TLChild-yes, but a stand for discrimination?
    They justifably look REALLY bad for this
    They would rather discriminate against loving gay people than help the 68,000 people who depend on them.
    Fortunately, it is these "stands" that propel the gay movement and get us closer and closer to equality.
    I love that God is on our side!

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:52 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    "Therefore, if the RCC has been in D.C. where we know people have committed adultery, lied, fornicated, and any other sins, I believe it can still stay in D.C. and help the needy."

    Cheers to that, TLChild!

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:22 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    I am glad that the RCC is taking a stand, but I do not think that it is right to discriminate against people. No sin is greater than the next; homosexuality is not worse than any other sin. Therefore, if the RCC has been in D.C. where we know people have committed adultery, lied, fornicated, and any other sins, I believe it can still stay in D.C. and help the needy. Like Yahshua stated, the sick are the ones who need a doctor.

    Luke 5:30-32: "But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:21 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    "Let me get this straight. The catholics would rather pull all their social services from the district's needy than be subject to laws prohibiting discrimination against gays?

    Wow, I think christianity has sunk to a new low."

    The RC's are just showing their true colors. They will sacrifice anyone to force their agenda on this country. Just look at all those they abandoned in Germany during WWII. For them to hold hostage the poor and needy for their own sick agenda is disgusting and I hope everyone in America sees it.

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:10 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    lordshepard - great post! Thanks and best wishes to you!

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:05 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Hmmm....do any of your bibles have Romans 1 in them, or do you use your own "humanistic version"?

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:53 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Hi Lordshep - I think you're right! Big hugs to you :-)

  • Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:23 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Hello guys. Still no self-proclaimed 'real Christians' offering opinion on this story. Just us gay Christians and friends.

    Have you noticed how the commentary from the 'religous right' side of things on these pages has dropped off the last few months? Think we drove them away for the most part? I wonder how CP will feel if these boards end up being mostly gay Christians and thier supporters?

    It would serve them right, in my opinion. I read 3 different Christian news sources and CP's coverage of gay issues out-number these other Christians news sources nearly 10 - 1! There will be days, weeks even, before the other two sites will run a gay story sometimes. CP is lucky to go ONE DAY without running one.

    I think someone on the CP staff must be a closet-hater or something to be so consumed with gay issues.

    Be strong my queer brothers and sisters as we continue our struggle for the right to live and worship as we choose. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

    For those who are Christians, remember God created you as you are and He loves you.

    For those who are not Christian...same thing.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:51 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    :D Our secret hide-away!

    G'nite yoo guys! :-)

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:53 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Hey Garageguy-did we finally reach a topic for which there is no christain defense?

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:19 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Let me get this straight. The catholics would rather pull all their social services from the district's needy than be subject to laws prohibiting discrimination against gays?

    Wow, I think christianity has sunk to a new low.

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:52 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    come on guys-will not one person defened their fellow christian brothers?
    I have a sneaking suspicion that the Vatican is going to step in and fire some people-the just disgust comign from the majority of the populace is going to make the RCC change its bigoted tune!

  • Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:51 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    This is shocking-I don't see how any christian can defend this.
    The RCC is using blackmail to make some political point.
    Gay marriage is inevitable. It is a matter of civil, equal rights. There is no "side" to this argument-thousands of children and gay families are being denied rights-the new law exempts religions-inisting on denying married gay spouses from benefits is insiting on discrimination
    Bottom line-The ones who suffer because of this blackmail are the neediest.
    I doubt if they truly asked, what woudl jesus do? the answer would be "blackamil
    Time to go back to the bible!

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