Survey: Most Americans Say Founders Intended Christian Nation

kingdomnow

Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:46 pm : 2 : 2 Flag

At first when I read others comments on whether or not it made a difference whether we are a Christian nation, I felt it did. But actually who cares? We are so far away from what we profess, we need to focus on repenting for our hyprocrisy and for our perversion of the gospel of Jesus.

kingdomnow

Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:36 pm : 1 : 2 Flag

Our sense of Christianity is so perverted by greed for power,racism, and pride that we now have immigrant pastors who believe God has sent them to America as missionaries! I am so tired nowadays of all the bragging about our Christian roots and yet don't even speak to each other in the church especially if you are from a different side of the tracks or a different shade of skin. When we look at things from Jesus perspective, we are quite pathetic.

DannyPoo

Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:28 pm : 0 : 0 Flag

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and realize the bible was wrote 200 years after the facts. can you imagine what the constitution would look like if it was just being written???
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This is a mighty big claim, that I believe requries you to provide evidential support.

Thank you.

rrodh

Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:07 pm : 0 : 3 Flag

this just shows how stupid american's are. they need to quit watching fox news, attend a university not ran on grants from the christian coalition/neocons, shut down all charter schools and realize the bible was wrote 200 years after the facts. can you imagine what the constitution would look like if it was just being written???

rr2002

Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:15 pm : 1 : 1 Flag

I know that many of our founding fathers were deists, but I also want to point out that the majority Americans were Christians (including Unitarian) at the time of independence.

The political scene of early America may seem like deism, but I don’t think politic is the only aspect to analyze the founding of a country.

And as for Thomas Jefferson, he changed his mind later. He was indeed a deist while he was in presidency, his religious view shifted to Christian (Unitarian) later in his life. Not that his later Christian beliefs had any effect on politic, but just wanted to defend Jefferson.

Citizen

Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:05 am : 2 : 1 Flag

The founders could have created a constitution to establish a Christian nation. They did not.

Luigi

Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:20 am : 0 : 0 Flag

"intended"? How can you know what the intended? All you are doing is playing a guessing game. Embrace diversity because God created all of creation, not just one group.

didymus

Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:27 pm : 0 : 4 Flag

I disagree with you artman, and I’m not going to bother reading a 1000 pages from some obscure 19th century American preacher to try and find out. But even if it were to be “proven” that the Founding Fathers made this a “Christian” nation… so what. That was over 200 years ago, and this is to post to be a democracy… that means “we the people” can change things.

artman

Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:29 pm : 3 : 5 Flag

This country was founded as a Christian nation, period. Anyone who doubts this is needs to read Christian Life & Character by Benjamin Morris. It contains source documents that prove otherwise and the ACLU has yet to answer the case it makes. The establishment clause was intented to adress the church having influence(governing power) over goverment. Which by the way was what was happening at that time in England. It was no way inteneded to mean a secular country. People can think what they want to, but you can NOT rewrite history. Anyone who actually investigates this with an open mind will discover the truth.

WiccanTexan

Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:18 am : 0 : 0 Flag

"Most Americans," eh? And exactly where did they conduct this unbiased poll? It's sure the opposite in forums I frequent.

didymus

Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:32 pm : 2 : 2 Flag

I have to ask: How does the idea that the Founding Fathers made this country a Christian nation really matter? (Now I personally don’t believe they did make it a Christian nation, the Constitution is more a product of the enlightenment than anything else, but for arguments sake let’s say they did.)

If the original intent of the founding father was to make this a Christian nation, so what? What does that have to do with today? Why continue living in the 18th century? The Industrial Revolution has happened. The information revolution has happened. We’ve gone through two catastrophic world wars. The world is a much smaller place than it was 200 years ago. Hopefully we have learned some things from past mistakes! Our culture has changed, men don’t wear wigs and cute little triangle hats anymore, and we have TV and telephones. Demographics have changed. There were no Chinatowns, little Vietnamese communities, or even a Hispanic community in America when the Constitution was written. Come to think of it… there wasn’t even anything calling itself an evangelical community at that time, denominational identity meant more back then!

If we don’t change and adapt with our changing world, and accommodate “the other”, we die. I don’t think the Founding Fathers had in mind to see America stuck in 18th century ideas. They knew they were in a rapidly changing world, and they tried to design a government that would change with it.

Thomas Rasmussen
http://didymuspov.blogspot.com

A.S.Mathew

Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:59 pm : 4 : 4 Flag

America, as a nation is specially blessed by God. I am sure that it is due to the Christian
heritage, our compassion to the suffering world and our solid loyalty to Israel. If we forget
God and do like the heathens do, God can take away a lot of blessings. If we turn to God
confessing our sins, He is ready to bless us abundantly. I see the great blessings of God when I land in America after visiting my native land and other countries.

HampsteadPete

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:15 pm : 2 : 10 Flag

Too bad the survey didn't ask how many of those who thought the constitution established a "christian nation" have actually read the document. There is no mention of christianity at all, and the only references to religion are exclusionary.

I don't think there is any reasonable basis at all, but the results do not surprise me, as roughly the same numbers of folks reject evolution, the foundation of biology. Most of you won't be happy 'till we end up back in the dark ages.