Survey: More Americans Familiar with Big Mac Ingredients than 10 Commandments

infidel13

Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:26 pm : 1 : 0 Flag

This is in response to a comment posted earlier which asserted that the United States was and should be a "Christian country."

Time for a little history lesson: Thomas Jefferson (and Voltaire, and many of the other Enlightenment philosophers from whom this country drew its philosophical underpinnings) was a Deist (not a Christian). The national motto "In God We Trust" was added in 1956 by Eisenhower, and hence is not a founding principle of the country. Further, it does not endorse Christianity in specific, anyway - it is prima facie as Deistic as Jefferson was. Most of the original inhabitants of the United States (and the colonies that preceded it) came either because they opposed established Christian churches of various varieties in Europe or to make money.

It is your personal right to disagree with people who do not espouse your views, but keep in mind that the government does not exist to back up your dogma. Freedom of (and from) religion is explicitly protected by the Bill of Rights. From the Declaration of Independence (with regard to such "natural rights"), "to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men" - the purpose of the government is to protect people's rights, not to give any one faction power over everyone else. Leave the Hindus and scientists alone, and go to church if that's what you feel like doing. Society doesn't care if you don't agree with it, so live your life as you see fit and let others do the same without self-righteous meddling.

RBB

Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:49 pm : 2 : 1 Flag

GoldenEagle - Thanks :)

charles - Not to worry, I've far from given up.

zenodaddy - You shouldn't expect atheists to actually know anything. "The fool hath said in his heart there is no God". They just seem to be people brimming over with hate, and need somewhere to spew it, how sad.

charles

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:44 pm : 2 : 1 Flag

RBB:
Christ came to give life and that more abundantly. There those who would have you believe that ll is hopeless but it is not. We know the ending and we know who wins. Don't listen to the decieved, they do not deserve any answer but the fact that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son so that whoever believes should not perish but have eternal life, God did not send His Son to destroy the world but that thru him they might be saved.

charles

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:38 pm : 0 : 1 Flag

RBB, don't give up, the enemy seeks but to steal, kill and destroy but

zenodaddy

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:21 pm : 2 : 1 Flag

HampsteadPete,

Which book did you get this information out of? I think you should go back and re-study your history. The Ten Commandments were before the Babylonian captivity. When it came to the Egyptians, they had no such thing in their culture, let alone the Babylonians.

Ignorance is definitely not blissful.

HampsteadPete

Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:49 pm : 1 : 3 Flag

Oh boo, hoo, hoo! First of all, which commandments are they talking about, the first set or the second, longer set? The first four "commandments" are merely variations on the theme "worship me! Worship me!" The rest of them contain absolutely nothing that wasn't in the culture prior to the first Hebrew writings, and most of it was stolen directly from the Babylonians who held the Hebrews captive at the time, along with their creation and flood myths.

Why Christians make such a big deal out of this bronze-age morality is the real mystery, as the god depicted in the old testament is probably the most horrible creature in all of fiction.

GoldenEagle

Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:25 am : 0 : 1 Flag

I apologize for getting off topic.Anyway, well said RBB.You are right on about the state of things in our country, and in light of that fact, this story about the Ten Commandments is no surprise.

GoldenEagle

Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:06 am : 0 : 1 Flag

Good job, RBB.The hypocrisy in all of this is sobering.Religion is being taught in our schools.It just happens to be the religion of Humanism.Every religion is tolerated in the name of tolerance and pluralism, except for Christianity.It reminds me of the true story of a man who went to a major store looking for a Christmas tree and Christmas lights.He was shown to an aisle that had Holiday trees and Holiday lights.The man said no thanks, I'm looking for a Christmas tree and Christmas lights.It sounds silly, but the man was trying to make a point.He wasn't going to buy from a store that didn't have the backbone to stand up and be politically incorrect.Something to think about.

RBB

Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:41 pm : 1 : 2 Flag

I would be very surprised if the outcome of this survey was any different. While this country was founded by Christians, and for some time was a Christian country, it has ceased to be one. We are a country where the ACLU and atheists have all but purged not only the Ten Commandments but even the mere mention of faith in Christ from schools, work places, the courts and are working on abolishing the right to even voice that what's contained in the Bible is right.

I live in a town that can have no manger scene, no Christmas and Easter parties in the schools, schools where the teachers teach my children and grandchildren lies about Creation, and that it's fine for them to have sex before marriage and to kill their unborn children if they screw up and get pregnant, and that it's just fine if two men or two women have sex, and what God teaches doesn't matter. That isn't a Christian country.

I live in a town, where this month (for the next several weekends) they will be having a festival to the Hindu "goddess" Ambika. They will be taking over a whole street, and dancing till midnight, a festival which I'm helping to pay for through my taxes, while no celebration of Christmas can be held, because that would be be a violation of the separation of Church and State. No that isn't a Christian country.