A transgender minister is allowed to remain pastor of a Baltimore congregation, the United Methodist Church's highest council announced Tuesday.
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Church High Council: Transgender Minister Can Stay
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Audrey Barrick
Christian Post Reporter
Wed, Oct. 31 2007 08:03 PM EDT
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I started out in the Methodist Church as a pastor. I left when they had a vote on whether to allow gays to be married in the church. The UMC has gotten away from the Bible and have become a church that does not want to offend anyone. They are headed in the wrong directions and have definitely gotten away from the preaching of John Wesley. I talk about the need to return to biblical preaching on my blog at: www.time2changechurches.blogspot.com
This is shameful, if that great man of God, John Wesley, was still alive, he would be outraged that these people even call themselves Methodists, a denomination that was the result of his obediant and faithful laborers for the Lord. This was a man who stressed Holiness and perfect obediance to God and his Word, while these people, who are the heirs of his organization, are rolling around in the filth of the world and indulging every sinful desire and "feeling".
Perhaps she should have just had her estrogen level checked. I would think an imbalance in hormones might be part of the problem. I have never understood how someone of either gender can say they feel they want to be the other. I'm a woman and have no idea how a man feels about anything. Hasn't that been the problem in marriages since the beginning of time? How can someone supposedly be born again and not care what God has to say about any given issue?
That church council is high, all right.
WiccanTexan-Trans people should be alloowed to attend church. However, fort hose who beliece the Bible, the issue should be whether or not it is biblical to have a trans person as a minister, should a Christian go through a sex change operation, etc. The Buible does affirm gender & sex roles as by birth. To Bible believers- U should speak truth inmlove/etc., whether U agree with a person's choice, etc. One can disagree, but not hate, or have distain 4 people. far too many liberals & GBLTs don't understand that.
lordshepard- if your statement was aimed at me then you just read WAY to much into what i said, and miniuplated my words to mean something else. I said nothing about birthdefects but she was not born into this world with a defect at birth her defect happened in her mind as an adult when she decided she wanted to be changed into a man. get what i mean now
To say that God never makes mistakes in the birth of a child (male vs female) is not a valid argument. Nor is saying that the Biblical sacredness of the body is an argument against surgical alteration of how one was born. People are born with birth defects all the time. Missing limbs, hair-lips, blind, deaf, even hermaphodite (born with both sex organs). That argument would also say that correcting those with such birth defects is a sin. Use another argument and be more sensitive to those who may be born with serious defects for one reason or another. Someone who has had a birth defect corrected by surgery is not going to hell.
Regardless of what they may think they are, this is not a Christian church. To openly disregard scripture is of the devil. Sin is forgivable, if repented. If one thumbs their nose at the bible and refuses to abide by its teachings, then that sinner will spend eternity in hell.
So basiclly they are saying that God made a mistake because she was supposed to be a man and we as humans had to fix Gods mistake. What exatly do these people preach. I can see it now a sermon goes - and down throughout history we can see all the things man had to fix for God you know samson he used to be a woman before he was the strongest man in history and if those brilliant doctors hadnt made him into a man we would have heard how sally pushed the pillars down and destroyed the building. THIS IS SICKENING
Yo Wiccan, You only disagree with this because you are not a Christian. But it's part of the teachings of the Christian faith that this is wrong. If this person wants be this way that can do that, but they should not be a Christian minister. I'm not saying the perso should not be welcome in church, but this person should not be leading the congregation and being an example for others when the entire life of this person is based on stuff which is denounced by the Bible. The Christian faith is based on the Bible. You can't just deny the basic doctrines of that book and say that you are a minister. That's insane!!! You can be a Wiccan, I don't care, it's your right, but I wouldn't want a Wiccan being a Christian pastor either. I don't want a person who is actively and openly living in sin to lead a congregation either. You have to believe in the faith and obey it if you are going to lead a congregation. You can't make up your own rules and not believe in the gospel and then be a minister at the same time. It's like a heart surgeon who refuses to perform surgeries. You can't have that job if you don't follow the rules. Get it?
This is insane!!!!!!!!! What? What happened to all the Old Testament and New Testament passages against this kind of stuff? What's next? Are they gonna say that there is no hell, or that Jesus didn't need to die on the cross. Why not just throw out the whole Bible and make up our own religion based on political correctness.
To WiccanTexan,.. I don`t think its a matter of these people going to Church to search out a deeper need,or a "miss" in their lives,..its more of a matter of someone of the same miss or deeper need standing behind the pulpit trying to "smooth over" to others things that He is at a "Miss" on also,...I think the Holy Scriptures makes their subject very clear here,..no gray area
I can't understand why anyone would be surprised by this. This is the direction that all mainstream Protestant denominations seem to be going in. It becomes a question, as usual, of what you are going to follow, God's rules (the Bible) or man's rules (Book of Discipline and the like). They are not the same.
Oh, heavens forbid that transgendered folks would find a place in church. We don't want THEM darkening the hallowed halls - just the already-saved. Hypocricy much?
I`m sure that information will increase that congregation,...just like a petting zoo;... so how long will it be before like attracts like and the whole or large part of that following is "Transgender" or of similiar mindset.........
The church is officially a rotting corpse! As it says in Revelation the "corporate" church has become nothing more than a harlot and no longer the bridegroom. She has sacrificed truth for pleasure and sin for sanctity. Repent church, Repent!
God help us. We've reached the point where church rules override the Scriptures. Just because we have not spelled out every conceiveable sin known to mankind in the church rules means we must allow them when the occur? Even when they clearly violate scripture? And this from the "High Council"? We clearly have lost our way.