Well, its nice to know someone is humble enough to admit he doesnt know everything ^^.

Now if you're talking about a Christian admitting their wrong in one or more of their convictions, that is also something I struggle with daily. That question is what "keeps me honest". It drives me to study the scriptures for the truth. There are many things that I once believed, that I have learned was incorrect. Or maybe, not necessarily incorrect, but that there is more to it than I thought. But you have those Christians who will distort the truth and twist it to fit their agenda, to suit their purpose. As someone wrote in one of these message boards..."God made us in His image,,and now we are trying to return the favor." I strive daily to let God be who He is in my life. He is a dangerous God! Very dangerous! But He is a good God. His Word is true and just. He is a God of love and mercy and forgiveness, but He is also a God of discipline, judgement, and power. Most people want Him to be a God of love and mercy. But they balk at the idea of a God who expects us to be accountable. That's where apostasy takes root.

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"a Christian who will admit Christianity is based on faith is beginning to me to seem non-existant.." That is so true. It doesn't mean that Christianity is flawed, just people are. People are trading the truth for something a little more palatable.
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You guys know the bible, you guys believe in religious experience... Thats fine... But that you guys will never say "well I might be wrong..." I wrestle with that quite a bit. I've wondered that more times than i care to admit. But I could spend my whole life wondering if I am wrong...whether as a Christian, agnostic, athiest, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. I could go from religion to relgion (or lack of religion) and spend my life in turmoil. My Christianity is based on faith. To seriously entertain the question "am I right in my belief" would denote lack of faith. Because of my faith, I have seen God do some amazing things in my life.

I know much of what I said will spark controversy... and because you will be offended by what I say, you will blow off all of what I say... I know I could of gone about it a different way... I know I should of been kinder... I know I shouldnt have been rude... and I appologize ahead of time... I just wish you guys would humble yourselves a tad bit.... None of us have absolute knowledge... so arrogance is unnecessary...

But what I have to frown at is that none of you guys will accept the doubt. Socrates said that wisdom is knowing that one knows nothing. A man with wisdom will not claim to know something he does not know. You guys know the bible, you guys believe in religious experience... Thats fine... But that you guys will never say "well I might be wrong..." makes me frown.... I say im atheist, but im actually agnostic. I dont know one way or the other..... But I reject all religions currently conceived by man kind. Or any holy scripture that claims to be created through the 'will' of God. But even with my confidence that all current religions are wrong, I still will not say that I KNOW any religion is wrong. I simply choose to put 'faith' in my belief that all religions are wrong. I see nothing wrong with faith, and I wish Christians would admit that it boils down to faith.

And before you guys take me the wrong way, I say a Christian with tolerance is a rare sight because of Christians out loook on : Gays and their intolerance to believing it is something born in a person, Evolution and the scientific soundness of the theory, Atheists this one is a tad bit obvious, and depending on the person, other religions... for various reasons... This list is expandable, but these are most topical.

I have no quarrel with any of you, just simply the beliefs you guys hold.... I have allotted to Christianity the respect it deserves for creating a respectable human being, but at the same time I also realize its flaws and the downsides it creates in a Christan man or woman.... These flaws are the reason Atheists are attacked.... A Christian with tolerance is a rare sight... a Christian who believes in evolution is even rarer... Hell a Christian who will admit Christianity is based on faith is beginning to me to seem non-existant... You guys are a tad bit unreasonable... Most catholics will outright admit its based on faith and wont even get to trying to make it more than that...

Best to be educated in a problem that will soon may be a nation wide conflict ^^.

Its a complicated situation this whole religion thing... but the reason I am on this site is because, while I've spent a good portion of my time seeing the arguements for and against religion, I've yet to myself enter the fray.... this site would be the first time I have ever argued with Christians to the extent that I have.... I am simply getting a feel for the arguements you guys use, and the rebuttles that will most likely be effective...

Mmm... I disagree with violence.. my stance on religion has little to do with my stance on violence... A holy war sounds not at all like a good solution to any problem... Why do atheists care about religion? Simple.... I go to hotels too... I live by the same laws you do... I salute the same flag... I learned from the same science classes that you did... all of these are places in which Christianity has imposed, or tried to impose, its beliefs upon me...

a temporal, fleeting solution to a longer term problem....

Using an iPod docking station, a flat-screen TV, a selection of underground music, a complimentary goldfish, or in some edgier hotels – an intimacy kit is a cheap substitute for the comfort and assurance that the Bible can give.

prodriver...its the nature of the beast.

I just ask myself, why atheists come along and talk here about bible-topics. I mean, is their any harm, any suffering coming from believing christians towards them?
Why do you waste your time here, reading about God and what´s going on in his kingdom?
I just don´t see a reason - is it the fact that it IS true what the bible says and you just try to find reasons for not believing? There are many, if you try to make up God in his believers.

Bibles in Hotels are an invitation to seekers and many blessings came from bible in those places.

Pornos and alcohol are happy welcome, pornos brought loads of sin and devorces and so on.

True believe in the word of God, true living of Gods love through his followers, brings out Christ in you - give God a serious try to change your live and you will see and forget your idea on believers that failed their trail. God does not make Christians lives perfect and mistakeless, but forgiven - everyday. Bibles in Hotels are Gods invitation to people who seek more to live in a quiete almost isolated place. This is one of the places where God can be found.

Disagree all you want, token. it's still true. And since you are an atheist, of course you're going to disagree with anything the Bible says. So what's your point?

Sounds violent... I have to respectably disagree with that.

I second that. "For the mystery of lawless is already at work,only He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.And then that lawless one will be revealed,whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
2 Thessalonians 2: 7&8

It's a crying shame that the bible is being thrown out of practically every public place in America. Disappearing bibles from hotels seems like something we should expect. I think the next development is banning the bible from being sold in bookstores to protect the public from whatever America is afraid of. I think that Christians have not been vocal and militant enough to stop non-Christians from getting their way. Let's call up these hotels and tell them that we will only use their hotels if they put the Gideon bibles back. Let's declare a holy war, as it were, on all those who seek to make the bible invisible!

I have always been told since I was a little girl that these bibles were always free to take. I have never taken on because I always had my own.

its all very interesting, but I'm waiting for the movie to come out....