feet, I did not say such a nation existed, please answer my actual question.

China has been guilty of human rights abuses since Mao-Tsetung became leader of that country. It is a country that does not believe in freedom and liberty and it has relentlessly oppressed its people for nearly 70 years. The people are poor, enslaved and abused.

If we love the Chinese because Jesus died for them, then we must use every means possible to force the Chinese Government to change its repressive policies on religion, speech etc and give the people freedom. We can start by BOYCOTTING THE BEIJING OLYMPICS.

BOYCOTT the Beijing Olympics. Period.

have never known any head of state who ever told the world "we are conducting a terrible travesty because we feel like it, and we intend to do it, regardless of what you say."

just as in romans 1:24-2726Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.............. and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

all creatures created thru the spirit of christ, who indulge in acts of shameful lusts, incur upon themselves..................................self hatred and self loathing and low self esteem.

they are compelled to hide what they are given over to........................... with denials, "no we are not doing that", withholding any evidence to the rest of the world, thru restricting free access and witness to the violations. because the truth is.... even their own citizens would have been offended.

pressure tactics merely means forcing the activity underground. like when the issue arose about torture in this country, the govt merely had the tortured flown to other countries, and had the torturing done by agents of foreign powers.



even hitler suspended halocaust operations, for a couple of weeks, because it looked like at one point, they were going to be publically disclaimed. but instead nothing happened.

the travesty was that if one credible authority had publically disclaimed the death camps to all the world. hitler would have ceased operations. however the rationale of the allies was that they didnt want to make ww2 a jewish war, so they remainded silent.

the fact was hitler knew the powers that be, knew what he was doing. the fact that they said nothing, reenforced hitler's belief that the rest of the world concurred with what he was doing.

the truth was .............................................regardless of what the allies did and said after the camps were discovered......... they really did.

it was 10 years later that antisemitism came to full fruition, in the early 50's, because the world was still believing, that thing that happened to the jews, the jews brought on themseves.....................because in addition to what they did, they were the ones that crucified christ.

(the example didn't have to be homosexuals below, it could have been anybody, children, Muslims, Jews, Christians)

feet, yes God did make them as well, and Christ did die for all, but many of them (in the government of China) have rejected that gift and the law written in their hearts. I think you do not know what you are saying...

For instance, say there was a nation, and it was known to torture all gays to death in the most brutal manner and did not apologize for it. Would you still be saying "Oh we shouldn't pressure them, let us give them a win win situation"? As long as China is intolerant of freedom of religious expression, there should be absolutely no appeasment. You don't reward bad people by giving them a win win situation.

Can you imagine if no Christian bought products from China or supported the Olympics until they changed their policy? Within a week China would be promoting freedom of religion or it would crash. Complacency is not what the Christian is called to.

the chinese whether believers or not were still created thru the spirit of christ, and god has written his laws on their hearts and put it in their minds(and of course christ died for them as well). in the future, i hope that worldwide, instead of pressure diplomacy, will be diplomacy that addresses that essence and with offer a offer a win win approach.

pressure diplomacy, is loaded with an "our interests mentality" and any nation of equal strength will first automatically reject it. and to nations of lesser strength it does nothing to further any good will.