The Episcopal Church's leader expressed confidence on Sunday that they will not be the only one standing up in support of gay clergy at an upcoming global conference.
Former Episcopalian, Jesus' death on the cross was interpreted in many different ways by many different Christians in the early church. As to your anxieties about what if this new interpretation succeeds, I suggest we heed the advice of Gamaliel "if this plan or this undertaking is of men, it will fail; but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!"
Former Episcopalian
Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:49 pm
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“It appears to be happening again. Whether this new group succeeds, only time will tell, but let's not be self-righteous about it in the meantime.”
What if they do succeed in their quest for bringing into the church new avenues of salvation and are wrong? What happens to the people who buy into what these “new principles of interpretation” (especially on salvation) say and die before they are proven wrong? I would say that believers have every right to question this apostasy.
There isn’t one verse in the New Testament that says anything about another form of salvation other than through Jesus Christ. The early church was founded on this believe.
If there was another way to salvation what does Jesus’ death on the cross mean?
StJohn\'s
Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:00 am
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Three hundred years ago, some Christians were in Akinola's words "bringing in new principles of interpretation" to promote the American Revolution and democracy against the Biblical concept of the Divine Right of Kings. Over two hundred years ago, other Christians were "bringing in new principles of interpretation" to oppose the firm foundation of Biblical support for the institution of slavery. It appears to be happening again. Whether this new group succeeds, only time will tell, but let's not be self-righteous about it in the meantime.
john14-6
Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:57 pm
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pgcfriend--
Well said. If you deny the exclusivity of Christ as the only means of salvation and the only way to God, then you have abandoned all orthodox Christian doctrine and entered into heresy. But this is typical of all the liberal denominations (Episcopalian Church in America, ELCA, United Methodists, etc) that push that mushy, feel-good, all-grace-and-no-repentance, pseudo-new-age rubbish that they call Christianity. If there are other ways to salvation outside of Christ then you are denying Christ - because Jesus said he was the only way. And if I can find salvation outside of Christ then what do I need Christ for, or the Christian faith for, in the first place?
pgcfriend
Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:55 pm
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Any Christian that will continue to follow a leader that says that Jesus is one of many ways to God really needs to leave there regardless of the homosexual clergy issue. It is no longer Christian. The new leader of the Episcopal Church has turned that denomination into a heretical one. Those that choose to debate or to have 'unity' with them are in grave danger with God. I say this having known someone in college that is a priest in the Episcopal Church. I have not had any contact with him since this happened but some of my friends have. They are skirting around the issue with him. I would not. You cannot play with denial of the faith. When you say that other paths leave to salvation when Christ Himself said that no one comes to the Father but by Him you are denying the faith.
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What if they do succeed in their quest for bringing into the church new avenues of salvation and are wrong? What happens to the people who buy into what these “new principles of interpretation” (especially on salvation) say and die before they are proven wrong? I would say that believers have every right to question this apostasy.
There isn’t one verse in the New Testament that says anything about another form of salvation other than through Jesus Christ. The early church was founded on this believe.
If there was another way to salvation what does Jesus’ death on the cross mean?
Well said. If you deny the exclusivity of Christ as the only means of salvation and the only way to God, then you have abandoned all orthodox Christian doctrine and entered into heresy. But this is typical of all the liberal denominations (Episcopalian Church in America, ELCA, United Methodists, etc) that push that mushy, feel-good, all-grace-and-no-repentance, pseudo-new-age rubbish that they call Christianity. If there are other ways to salvation outside of Christ then you are denying Christ - because Jesus said he was the only way. And if I can find salvation outside of Christ then what do I need Christ for, or the Christian faith for, in the first place?