The Western church’s growing tendency to blur theological differences and not uphold the absolute truth is contributing to the threat of radical Islam to the Western world, said a highly respected expert on Islam.
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Expert: Liberal Christianity Intensifies Radical Islam Threat
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Michelle A. Vu
Christian Post Reporter
Thu, Feb. 07 2008 01:42 PM EST
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I would like every christain to pray constantly that the leaders of all the churces work faithfully and earnestly for the unionification of the body of christ so we can be a strong witness for Christ. Mr. Sookhedeo is a courageous witness to Christ. Having being born and raised in a Muslim country (Egypt). I know how it feels to be a Christain in a predominatly muslim country. I request taht everyone pray for the persecuted church all over the world. When we deny Christ in front of the world, we abandoning our most potent (weapon). For us to win this war, we have to preach Jesus Christ to these Muslims without shame or hestation, so we can convert them from enemies to disciples for Christ. Would not be great if we can open the hearts and eyes of some of these fanatics and convert them from Sauls to Pauls.
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels - Mark 8:38.
Christians need to wake up and proclaim the truth in Christ! If we neglect to share the truths of scripture, for fear of man; we are in danger of becoming the servants of men.
The Bible makes it perfectly clear - Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6, 1Corinthians 3:11, Acts 4:12). We are either going to influence those around us with these truths or those around us (the culture) will influence us. There is no gray or middle ground here!
jesus4me,
You make some good points worth pondering. It must also be taken into consideration that when it comes to prosperity in the Middle East, it is seriously lacking except for among the elite class (sheiks & royalty). I think this is causing a natural migration towards the more prosperous European countries. Turkey has long desired to be counted a member among the European Union. This is said to be at least in part due to the economic problems.
Europe is headed for serious problems in the wake of Islamic immigration. As the Christians have resigned themselves to secularism, it only makes since that a counterfeit spirituality would fill the void, however bankrupt it may be. This reveals the danger of allowing the liberal media elite to marginalize faith and seek to compartmentalize it for church alone. This is not what the framers of the constitution would have wanted. They recognized that there was a source of strength and justice that transcends human government.
The Terrorist Network in America, 1991-2007
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Oh, and one more thing------btw khanson, I have saved a copy of my post and will continue to post the truth about Islam in history in case you find it amusing to flag it for historical facts, as you have been known to do when someone says the least bit critical thing about Islam. I know you did this to John 14-6 and others who post here.
Q'uran to kill the infidels, but odly enough, teir own Q'uran tells tem to fllow the "Isha" or the Gospels. IT is a very troubling faith that has caused not thousands, but Millions of deaths at the sword over history, just like Communism has over history. The Muslims Arabs allied with Hitler during the Holocost to anhialate the Jewish people from the earth; they failed, because the Jews are the apple of God's eye. Fanatical Muslims will not stop at anialating Jews, Cristians, and even their own kin over "Sharia Law". This is very sad, but true, and it is all part of the end times, as is the worldwide ecumenical reunion of all of the world religions.
Jesus Christ is the answer to our sins, our injustice, our unfair world. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
John 1 (New King James Version)
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Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
John 1
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
John 14:6 (New King James Version)
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6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Matthew 7:13
[ The Narrow Way ] “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Matthew 7:12-14 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)
Matthew 7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Matthew 7:13-15 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)
Luke 13:24
“Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
Luke 13:23-25 (in Context) Luke 13 (Whole Chapter)
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I don't say this to stir up argument, but only to speak the truth as it pertains to history. Consider this: History in context for those who don't know it, or don't read up on it. The Moors (Muslim Arabs from North Africa) came in thu the Straight of Gibraltar and tried to take over Europe by coming in the Iberian Peninsula (Spain). At that time, they had gotten as far up as the Pyranees mountains and into France, but the Spainish Kingdoms had to keep them at par. Sadly, the Moors kept a pretty heavy influence on the Southern half of Spain for several hundred years, and the Reigns of Castille and Aragon had to keep them from continuing their blood thirsty march into Europe. It was not until AFTER the Moors (Muslims) tried taking over the Europe that the Crusades began. See, people love to blame the Crusades for every woe in the world, but the FACT is that if it was not for the Moors and their conquests, then Europe may have not even had Crusades.
Having said that, what we see today in Great Britain and the rest of Europe is nothing more than the modern day Moors and the Ottomans trying to take over the world again. You see, it is their subtle attempt to gain a foothold in Britain and Germany, and Spain, and other parts of Europe, and AMERICA, and CANADA, and SOUTHA AMERICA, and establishing Muslim Sharia Law. If people protest their heavy influence, ten they cry outto the Liberal groups, and the ACLU, and every other fifth column organization that exists (which subsequently they hate as well) saying they are being discriminated against, then the Muslim Fanatics can continue their tyrrade of Hatred across Europe and the World, and threaten people with coversion to Islam or death. It is written in their
I don't say this to stir up argument, but only to speak the truth as it pertains to history. Consider this: History in context for those who don't know it, or don't read up on it. The Moors (Muslim Arabs from North Africa) came in thu the Straight of Gibraltar and tried to take over Europe by coming in the Iberian Peninsula (Spain). At that time, they had gotten as far up as the Pyranees mountains and into France, but the Spainish Kingdoms had to keep them at par. Sadly, the Moors kept a pretty heavy influence on the Southern half of Spain for several hundred years, and the Reigns of Castille and Aragon had to keep them from continuing their blood thirsty march into Europe. It was not until AFTER the Moors (Muslims) tried taking over the Europe that the Crusades began. See, people love to blame the Crusades for every woe in the world, but the FACT is that if it was not for the Moors and their conquests, then Europe may have not even had Crusades.
Having said that, what we see today in Great Britain and the rest of Europe is nothing more than the modern day Moors and the Ottomans trying to take over the world again. You see, it is their subtle attempt to gain a foothold in Britain and Germany, and Spain, and other parts of Europe, and AMERICA, and CANADA, and SOUTHA AMERICA, and establishing Muslim Sharia Law. If people protest their heavy influence, ten they cry outto the Liberal groups, and the ACLU, and every other fifth column organization that exists (which subsequently they hate as well) saying they are being discriminated against, then the Muslim Fanatics can continue their tyrrade of Hatred across Europe and the World, and threaten people with coversion to Islam or death. It is written in their
Former Muslim speaks out against terrorism, gets accused of hate
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=66745
Patrick Sookhdeo who was born in 1947 in Guyana inherits his hatred for Islam because he was outcasted due to his non-monotheistic credentials.
The Muslim Association of Britain, has accused him of ignorance of the subtleties of Islamic theology and of cherry picking verses from the Qur’an to make his points.
Some Christian church leaders in Britain have criticised him for speaking about the discrimination that Christians face in Muslim countries, because they think it hinders inter-faith relations within Britain.
Sookhedeo has been criticised by Church of England figures on the grounds of ecumenicalism both for his call to ban a particular translation of the Koran and for his criticism of the Channel 4 documentary on Jesus in Islam.
To me Patrick Sookhdeo should be allowed to talk - let the target speak of the truth.
Maranatha, Quecat, and Amen..........
What started out as a great opportunity to warn against watering down the gospel,is instead used as a reason to bash people on a political level.We are supposed to be citizens of a heavenly nation,Gods ambassadors,and we waste so much time pitting one worldly form of political thinking against another.Maybe what intensifies radical Islam is the basic hypocracy of people who claim to be christians leading the most worldly of lives.
Almost without exception what you see in faulty (and un-biblical) date setting is well meaning folks who really want to win souls for Christ and think that preaching the "end is tomorrow" instead of "Jesus IS coming back someday, but we can't tell you precisely when" is a more effective way of encouraging fence-sitters to make a move.
Again, ill advised, and always a cause for eventual embarrassment.
Yes, there are some who "date set" for their own personal gain of some kind, but there again, the calendar eventually betrays and exposes them for the charlatans that they are.
In every case of faulty date-setting that I've studied you see the same thing over and over again: deliberate discarding of passages that cannot be understood in light of the current events of the time. God's word is true and what prophecies were to occur in the past, happened precisely on time and in the manner indicated. It didn't matter that at the time folks read a part of scripture and said "that doesn't make sense, I don't see how that could happen."
It didn't matter. It happened anyway and once it did, folks looked back and thought "gee, the very thing we thought couldn't happen, did. I didn't understand what was meant by this passage, but now - now it's as plain as day! Why didn't I understand this before?"
And so it is with prophecy to this very day. As we get closer and closer to the "end of the book" it becomes much more obvious what scriptures are referring to and once something does happen, beyond all reason, we marvel and say "it's just as the bible said it would be."
Now isn't it cool to know how the story ends? Praise the Lord!
re: typo
"re: 1000 ce = due to complete ignorance of biblical, among many other things."
biblical eschatology, that is.
The general populace didn't even have their own copy of the scriptures and depended on their "priests" to teach them. Bad idea all the way around, but we won't go there. That's a whole other discussion. Let's just say the middle ages were what they were.
To Citizen:
...and it's very easy to strike down each and every one of these bad examples one by one.
re: 1000 ce = due to complete ignorance of biblical, among many other things.
re: Seventh Day Adventist = classic ill-informed "date-setting" in direct disobedience to Scripture.
re: Heaven's Gate = (are you kidding? this group wasn't even Christian-related)
Crazy new-agers with a self-proclaimed messiah figure who had convinced them that the comet Hale-Bopp was bringing with it space ships that were to pick them up, and (roughly) dying was how to "get on board" !!!
On the other hand, scholarly opinions of classical Christian comprehensive biblical eschatology have been around for quite some time and while it had never been popular with the masses or the "next big thing", to those who take the time to study and understand it, it's clear as day what the implications are. There are certain events that must take place, and a certain order in which they must occur, there are even time limits within which some events must occur in relation to the previous or subsequent event.
...Israel 1948, anyone? The manpower of China's standing army? Check. Iran and Russia? Utterly fascinating to watch the seemingly improbable come to fruition before your very eyes.
The examples are many and far too complex to address in this humble forum.
I'd suggest you look into the matter for yourself.
Iit is not without reason that Daniel was instructed by God to not worry that he didn't understand what he was instructed to write - that "these things are sealed up until the end", meaning that they would be understood one day when it was readily apparent what was meant by them.
Maranatha!
oops, that last comment should have been for quecat.
john14-6: The Catholics said the same thing around 1000 C.E. The Seventh Day Adventists said the same thing in 1844. The Heaven's Gate cult said the same thing in the late 90's. So did Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins They all thought they were leaving in "the end times." Isn't it clear by now that superstitious folk can always twist their doomsday prophecies of choice to fit whatever's happening right now?
John 14-6,
That being said, though, it's not entirely surprising, if one understands biblical prophecy.
Actually it's fascinating to watch the twists and turns of political intrigues and social forces as they move this entire world along into complete alignment with the scriptural description of endtimes circumstances and events.
Maranatha!
As a democrat and a christian, to blame liberals for this is complete BS, The bush family has long strong ties to Saudi Arabi an the like. I do not trust most muslims anymore than I could throw them, however we need thier oil and they like our money. So since the republican party is bought and paid for by big oil....
Theotrek - I think you're missing the point here. It's not a matter of what a culture "prefers" - sure we'd all like to win. But, in Arab culture it is expected if not absolutely codified that the stronger party is obligated to exert control over a weaker party, as a natural course of action, believing that by doing so they are in obedience to the revealed will of Allah. It is very much an honor driven culture and assenting to voluntary compromise is seen as both weakness and a willingness to dishonor one's own self and purpose that Allah would set before you. To the muslim culture this is tantamount to offending the diety, himself, and you can guess what that makes you in their eyes.
This dynamic can be seen in simple business dealing between (say for example) two Saudi businessmen. Honor and saving face is considered utmost in the deal, and it must appear in whatever deal is struck, that neither party "gave in" or came away from the deal with less than what was intended. Note that I used the word "appear". There may actually be some gave and take - but in the end the "appearance" must be that the agreement that was formed was the one that both parties meant to pursue all along - and thus no one's honor has been besmirched.
The additional operator here is that their culture and religion are indivisible and according to their religion, they are not obligated to honor any agreement they may make with an "infidel", since "infidels" are "lower than dogs" and "accursed in Allah's eyes".
That being that case, do you really think that "land for peace" will work in Israel? No.
It's the same type, if not a quite more serious cultural and social faux pas, as showing an Arab the bottom of your shoe!
Patrick Sookhdeo is absolutely, 100% full of baloney!
Quecat--"In Arab culture, it is a sign of weakness or inferiority if one backs downs, compromises or capitulates"
I don't know any culture that relishes backing down. American culture follows the philosophy of "carrying a big stick" to enforce its own ideas, even if that does not work either. Peace accords are not about backing down. They are about finding new solutions in which every participant can win.
...That's a rather simplified version of the philosophy - but I think it hits the high points as they pertain to the discussion at hand.
One really doesn't have to look much further than understanding Arab culture to recognize that the premise presented here is 100% correct.
In Arab culture, it is a sign of weakness or inferiority if one backs downs, compromises or capitulates. As such, the culture demands that the stronger party should dominate the weaker party. What's more, the weaker party should expect it and accept it as Allah's will.
Accordingly, peace accords do not work - they are a sign of compromise. Moral relativism - the same. Pluralism - the same.
Interesting side note regarding any treaty made with Muslim/Arab cultures - according to their understanding of their Koran, it is perfectly acceptable to sign a treaty with "infidels" even as a ruse. It is further expected that the Muslim/Arab parties to the treaty would then break the treaty for several reasons:
1. They believe that it is the will of Allah that weaker parties be made subordinate.
2. The simple signing of the treaty signaled a weakness or compromise on the part of the infidel.
3. Agreements with infidels are not to be honored and lying to them in order to subjugate them is acceptable so long as it furthers the cause of Islam.
“When faced with the uniqueness of Christ we become inclusive. He loves everybody so we talk about love, and hell and damnation goes out the window,” said Sookhdeo. “It becomes too embarrassing. So our church has conformed itself according to society.”
This is nothing short of destructive heresies as stated in 2nd Peter.
The 30 years war is what Christianity without liberalism looks like. Is that what is half-baked "expert" wants?