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Anglicans Issue Draft in Attempt to Avoid Schism

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The group tasked with drawing up a covenant that 77 million members of the Anglican Communion can unite under has issued its second draft for consideration in the months running up to the global Lambeth Conference.

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  • wbmoore
    Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:23 am : 0 : 0 Flag

    StJohns, If you read the statement Gomez made, it was in reference to Lambeth, not GAFCON. Sydney will not attend Lambeth, nor will certain South American and African bishops. I think Schism is simply a matter of time, unless the American and Canadian branches quit trying to interpret the Word of God through their sins.

    Rand503, Tutu is quoted (see http://www.layman.org/layman/news/2006-news/tutu-god-is-not-christian.htm) as stating, "Jesus, it appears, was quite serious when he said that God was our father and that we belonged all to one family, because in this family all, not some, are insiders. None is an outsider – black and white, yellow and red, rich and poor, educated and not educated, beautiful and not so beautiful, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, all belong, all are held in a divine embrace that will not let us go – all, for God has no enemies."

    HE is right about God not showing favoritism in regards to salvation. But He is wrong in regards to God having no enemies and everyone being in the family of God. The Apostle Paul said in Romans 2:5-11, "5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God "will give to each person according to what he has done." 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11For God does not show favoritism."

    He is wrong about everyone being in GOd's family, for without faith in Christ, we ARE God's enemies, even though He loves us and wants us to love and obey Him.
    Jesus said in Joyhn 3:36, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

    The apostle Peter said in Acts 4:12 "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

    James said in James 4:4, "You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God."

    Citizen, its not a matter of "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." God said it. Period. It does not matter if you believe or not. Your belief does not change the fact.

  • wilderness
    Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:23 pm : 3 : 0 Flag

    Article: "My cup is half full as opposed to half empty," he said. "I think schism can be avoided but I think it depends on the willingness of parties involved to sit down and discuss the proposals and attempt to come to a common mind."

    A “common mind” that deviates from the written word of God, calls the sin of homosexuality good, and embraces unity above truth, is a mind that has become deceived, perverted, and darkened with compromise.

    Jeremiah 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

  • Citizen
    Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:52 pm : 1 : 2 Flag

    St John/s, Rand503, it's good to see you commenting. You both provide much a much needed alternative viewpoint to the "the bible says it, I believe it, that settles it" mentality that is much too pervasive around here.

  • StJohn\'s
    Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:55 am : 1 : 2 Flag

    Topekan, your condemning Bishop Tutu is the like the Pharisees condemning Jesus. You are focusing too much on the letter of the Law and not enough on the Spirit of the Gospel.

  • Topekan
    Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:27 am : 3 : 1 Flag

    Bishop Desmond Tutu is a heretic who denies Jesus' claim that "no one comes to the father but through me". Since it is sin that divides them, how can they not look at it?

  • Rand503
    Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:24 pm : 1 : 1 Flag

    How sad. As Bishop Demond Tutu (the Nobel Peace prize winner) said, they should be looking at what unites us, not what divides us.

  • FullGospel
    Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:16 pm : 2 : 0 Flag

    Let us all pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ. Only Jesus can heal that which causes this behavior and the wounds it has caused. When one of us in the body suffers, we all suffer.

  • StJohn\'s
    Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:57 pm : 2 : 2 Flag

    In no way will the GAFCON group 'represent the mind of the Communion' as stated by Archbishop Gomez except of course in the minds of those attending, which then is the very definition of self-righteousness against which Jesus railed.

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