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Presbyterian High Court Upholds Fidelity-Chastity Standard for Clergy

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Fri, Feb. 15 2008 11:00 AM ET
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The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s high court rulings this week upholding the chastity requirement for gay ministers is expected to douse years of fiery debate over a controversial decision on ordination standards.

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Mk8:34
  • Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:42 pm
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Obviously, the sow has not been washed or it has returned to its wallowing. "Yes all that live Godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution, And when you think maybe it will get better. "but evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being decieved.
But continue you in the things which you have learned and have been assured of, knowing of whom you have learned them ."
aritonang
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:16 pm
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Quecat got it right each time,

In case you are still thinking about it: how can a practising Gay and Lesbian adhere to Fidelity and Chastity? They cannot. What a naive politically correct way of viewing things.

Lisa Large was being honest when she said although she is ordained to be a clergy in the PCUSA, she is still going to the BYOB party swap-a-rama thing, GLBT lust-nest weekend getaway, ACLU big kahuna orgy etc. At least going out to the Gay Lesbian bar once in a while for variety.
Online4Him
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:56 pm
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Quecat,

Well said on both posts!

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! - Isaiah 5:20
kevin82
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:02 pm
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I praise God for this decision, as it will be key for the health of the PCUSA.
Quecat
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:59 pm
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The militant homosexual movement accuses the church of hatred and slings wild hyperbole to bolster their arguments that fly in the face of both scripture and reality.
There is no hatred, only Christians whose hearts ache to see those that would be their brothers and sisters in Christ, repent of their sin and be welcomed in fellowship.

I can think of no other sin where the sinner has the nerve to walk into a church and in pride and boasting, outright deny scripture, deny that his sin is a sin, and demand that those of the fellowship compromise their view of scripture to accomodate him, else be labelled a hater, bigot, etc.,etc., etc., ad nauseum.

The way is narrow, Christ's claims are exclusive and God is the intolerant one- intolerant of sin.
Repent.

Maranatha!
DannyPoo
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:53 pm
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SheQuon,

Regardless of what you feel about this denomination or other "right-wing Christians" Certainly this denomination has a right to choose how it want's to practice it's religion.

And just like you said, people who don't like it, can go to a different religion/denomination. I'm not sure why it's so upsetting... This is what is great about America, if you disagree with how the religion practices it's faith, leave that religion and if it is truly "wrong" few or none will follow it.
Quecat
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:43 pm
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Hurrah for some common sense !

Eph 5:3-7 "But FORNICATION, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

fornication = Greek 'porneia' - illicit sexual intercourse, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.

1Cr 5:9-13 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people–
not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”

Accept the repentant? Most certainly! Accept the unrepentant as a brother? God forbid!

God calls it an abomination! Got a problem with it? Talk to Him.
In the mean time, excuse me if I reject your moral relativism.
SheQuon
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:28 pm
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ANOTHER open letter to practicing homosexuals who wish to be clergy: (supplemented)
Fornication and homosexual behavior are inconsistent with the Bible. (But slavery and infanticide are cmpletely consistent!)
Perhaps you should try Buddhism or Scientology. (And if these "Christians" keep it up, many heterosexuals will leave and try them also!)
By refusing to obey (what right-wing Christians SAY is) Biblical authority, you are exposing the "family" focusers--the Dobsons, the Robersons, the Haggards, the Clark Warrens--for who they are.
PolishBear
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:21 pm
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An open letter to practicing homosexuals who wish to be clergy:
Be faithful to your spouses. But more than anything, BE DISCRETE. No one will be the wiser.
Blacksho89
  • Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:15 pm
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An open letter to practicing homosexuals who wish to be clergy:
Fornication and homosexual behavior are inconsistent with the Bible.
Perhaps you should try Buddhism or Scientology. Either that or repent, go forth, and sin no more. By refusing to obey Biblical authority, and teaching others that it is OK to flaunt Biblical authority, you are putting souls at risk.

"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck. " Mark 9:42 NIV
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