An open letter, posted Monday, by the president of the Chinese House Church Alliance revealed the relentless persecution endured by him and his family under the hands of the Chinese government.
IF u do not live in china ,dont make any comments for what u dont really see and investigate. so just keep silence!
aritonang
Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:07 am
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From Indonesia,
To the evil atheistic people of China.
It is so sad reading about these Chinese atheist is doing to the House Church in China.
These atheist are not one of the pubescent little kid who wont go to church on Sundays.
These are hardened evil murderer, who still kill people by the dozen each month through public and secret execution.
Killed were some 65 million (and counting) in China; 20 million in the Soviet Union; 2 million (and counting) in North Korea; 2 million in Cambodia; 1.7 million in Africa; 1.5 million in Afghanistan; 1 million in Vietnam; 1 million in communist Eastern Europe; and, 150,000 in Latin America.
Go to Victims of Communist memorial in Washington and see a fresh reminder of the death toll that militant atheists piled around themselves when they were given the chance.
gavulav
Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:05 pm
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There are two things right now that are guaranteed to get a reaction from the Chinese Government. The first is a trade boycott and the second is a call for a boycott of the Olympics. Christians around the world can call for a boycott of all Chinese goods and hit out strongly at the Chinese economy by refusing to buy anything that is made in China. Secondly, Christians should call for a boycott of the Beijing Olympics. The Chinese, like many other Asians, are acutely embarrassed of losing face, especially at a time when the eyes of the world are on them. I believe that if Christians make a big enough hallabaloo about the persecution of Christians and call upon their governments to consider a boycott of the Olympics, the Chinese government will be forced to take heed. Meanwhile, let us continue to pray for our brothers and sisters in China, for all the Chinese people and for a change of heart of the leaders in their government. God bless China.
jbnb31691
Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:46 am
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Why hasn't there been an all out push for a boycott of the Olympics? Could it have something to do with the US debt to China? The US has voted with their dollars. Human rights is trumped by consumerism. As the restrainer of evil and the salt of the Earth, the church has an obligation to speak against the outrageous and blatant offenses in China. Our silence is understood by the world community as approval. Do you love your lifestyle more than your brothers and sisters in Christ?
aritonang
Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:41 am
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I agree with ender
Pastor Zhang Mingxuan is a true servant of our Lord. May the spirit of the Lord keep him safe as well as his family. For your information, currently there are 55 millions of Christians in Communist abd Atheist Peoples Republic of China and Christianity is growing fast in the 1.3 billion people nation.
As of 2007, indigenous Chinese Christianity is growing in contrast to Christian adherence in the West, where it is in decline in many cases.
Nicholas D. Kristof, a columnist of the New York Times wrote on June 25, 2006, "Although China bans foreign missionaries and sometimes harasses and imprisons Christians, especially in rural areas, Christianity is booming in China." In 1800 there were 250,000 baptized Roman Catholics, but no known Protestant believers out of an estimated 362 million Chinese. By 1949, out of an estimated population of 450 million, there were just over 500,000 baptized Protestant Christians.
Anonymous internet columnist Spengler commented in 2007 that Christianity "will have become a Sino-centric religion two generations from now.
aritonang
Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:04 am
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Dear FAITHBYTHEWORD,
All my brothers and sisters in Christ:
Our Great Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ is alive and well in INDONESIA. INDONESIA here means the nation with largest MUSLIM population in the WORLD.
According to WIKIPEDIA Christians in Indonesia make around 9-11% of the population. But through conversion/ apostasy, Christians are already reaching 12-15% of total population 234+millions -AND STILL GROWING.
Here the body of Christ is STANDING UNITED especially after year 2000 CHRISTMAS EVE BOMBING OF NUMEROUS CHURCHES. Therefore we have ROMAN CATHOLICS, LUTHERANS, CALVINIST, PENTECOSTAL EVANGELICAL, BAPTIST and CHARISMATIC -including small community of ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. Especially the CHARISMATIC where Spirit of the Lord are working wonders and great miracles. Doors are opened, Needs are fulfilled, Things are found. The fast growing numbers of Christians are the main reason of unrest in Mollucas and Central Sulawesi Poso. But brothers and sisters in the Army and Mobile Police squad are taking care of that.
As for you, please help us through PGI (Unity of Indonesian Churces)
Blessed be the Lord, who daily carries our burden; JESUS Lord of our salvation
Barukh Adonai yom yom yaamos-lanu haEl Yeshuateinu
ender
Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:11 pm
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Zhang is one of the Christians who's reward will be great in heaven. He endures, while we Americans continue our economic support of the country that is determined to break the church. All of the protests in the world will not cause China to alter its animosity to Christians, but they will listen to their pocketbooks. I pray for Zhang and that all of our faith will be as strong as his.
FAITHBYTHEWORD
Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:05 pm
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Friend from Indonesia
How are things there? We brothers and sisters in Christ here in the states take our freedom to worship God for granted never having experienced the persecution that exist in so much of the world.
aritonang
Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:10 pm
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From Indonesia.
Dear 'just one american' you are misled. Buddha never talk about Jesus teaching, you are reaching to no avail. Paul never talk things that was mentioned by Buddha.
Paul in his last request before execution, requested that he be crucified up-side down as not to decrease the uniqueness of the crucifixion of Lord Jesus Christ our Redeemer.
Barukh Adonai yom yom yaamos-lanu ha El Yeshuateinu.
God bless and keep you my friend.
just one american
Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:08 pm
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Approximately around 20 AD on is when the first influx of Buddism originated in China. I lived in the Republic of China, Taiwan for four years, and to my understanding Budda was a spiritual man that traveled around healing and preforming maraculous signs in the sight of the population of china. When Jesus gave his deciples the spirit and power to do just these things I believe if I am correct that Paul went through Asia Minor and did just that. Somewhere along the way Confusionism and Dioaism beliefs conflicted with the teachings of the Almighty and corrupted the true message that The Budda [possibly Paul] delivered. We pray for China---AMEN.
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To the evil atheistic people of China.
It is so sad reading about these Chinese atheist is doing to the House Church in China.
These atheist are not one of the pubescent little kid who wont go to church on Sundays.
These are hardened evil murderer, who still kill people by the dozen each month through public and secret execution.
Killed were some 65 million (and counting) in China; 20 million in the Soviet Union; 2 million (and counting) in North Korea; 2 million in Cambodia; 1.7 million in Africa; 1.5 million in Afghanistan; 1 million in Vietnam; 1 million in communist Eastern Europe; and, 150,000 in Latin America.
Go to Victims of Communist memorial in Washington and see a fresh reminder of the death toll that militant atheists piled around themselves when they were given the chance.
Pastor Zhang Mingxuan is a true servant of our Lord. May the spirit of the Lord keep him safe as well as his family. For your information, currently there are 55 millions of Christians in Communist abd Atheist Peoples Republic of China and Christianity is growing fast in the 1.3 billion people nation.
As of 2007, indigenous Chinese Christianity is growing in contrast to Christian adherence in the West, where it is in decline in many cases.
Nicholas D. Kristof, a columnist of the New York Times wrote on June 25, 2006, "Although China bans foreign missionaries and sometimes harasses and imprisons Christians, especially in rural areas, Christianity is booming in China." In 1800 there were 250,000 baptized Roman Catholics, but no known Protestant believers out of an estimated 362 million Chinese. By 1949, out of an estimated population of 450 million, there were just over 500,000 baptized Protestant Christians.
Anonymous internet columnist Spengler commented in 2007 that Christianity "will have become a Sino-centric religion two generations from now.
All my brothers and sisters in Christ:
Our Great Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ is alive and well in INDONESIA. INDONESIA here means the nation with largest MUSLIM population in the WORLD.
According to WIKIPEDIA Christians in Indonesia make around 9-11% of the population. But through conversion/ apostasy, Christians are already reaching 12-15% of total population 234+millions -AND STILL GROWING.
Here the body of Christ is STANDING UNITED especially after year 2000 CHRISTMAS EVE BOMBING OF NUMEROUS CHURCHES. Therefore we have ROMAN CATHOLICS, LUTHERANS, CALVINIST, PENTECOSTAL EVANGELICAL, BAPTIST and CHARISMATIC -including small community of ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. Especially the CHARISMATIC where Spirit of the Lord are working wonders and great miracles. Doors are opened, Needs are fulfilled, Things are found. The fast growing numbers of Christians are the main reason of unrest in Mollucas and Central Sulawesi Poso. But brothers and sisters in the Army and Mobile Police squad are taking care of that.
As for you, please help us through PGI (Unity of Indonesian Churces)
Blessed be the Lord, who daily carries our burden; JESUS Lord of our salvation
Barukh Adonai yom yom yaamos-lanu haEl Yeshuateinu
How are things there? We brothers and sisters in Christ here in the states take our freedom to worship God for granted never having experienced the persecution that exist in so much of the world.
Dear 'just one american' you are misled. Buddha never talk about Jesus teaching, you are reaching to no avail. Paul never talk things that was mentioned by Buddha.
Paul in his last request before execution, requested that he be crucified up-side down as not to decrease the uniqueness of the crucifixion of Lord Jesus Christ our Redeemer.
Barukh Adonai yom yom yaamos-lanu ha El Yeshuateinu.
God bless and keep you my friend.