1/3 of planned parenthoods budget comes from our very own taxes that we pay.

The point is that I have heard of girls dying in abortion clinics and there is no excuse for that. Abortion clinics recieve the least amount of government oversight in the health care industry (if you want to call it a part of that).

Until a child is 18, they are the parents responsibility. Period. Anything they do should be under the parents awareness, ESPECIALLY a surgical procedure. What this is, is satan's attempt to strip parents of their rights and obligation to care for their children. He is destroying the foundation of our country, which is our family unit. Destroy the family, destroy the nation. We, as parents, are compelled, even if just by nature itself, to care for our children. We parents are responsible for the welfare of our children. We parents are the decision makers in our families. If a parent wants to relinquish their right to the welfare and upbringing of their children, they will be judged accordingly. And they have absolutely no say in why their children have become the adults they have become. They can't complain.

Where are the parents before the pregancy comes?

All surgical procedures carry a level of risk, granted they are often minor, but when you sign the surgical consent form these are noted. Since minors require parental/guardian consent except for emergency lifesaving procedures, who's going to be legally liable for incidents where something goes wrong? The MD? The person who gave them a ride to the clinic? The state? The school? The counselor who advised the child?
I'm sure the lawyers will go after whoever has the deepest pockets, but there will still be a question of someone being prosecuted in addition to being sued.

GMG: "Last I knew, abortion was a medical procedure. Aren't all other medical procedures on minors required to have the consent of the parent? This should not even be an issure, for that reason alone."

Being from Illinois I concur that!

topekan - that is exactly what I was talking about. You clearly haven't learned a thing.

hence the idea....don't tell my parents....

Have any of you that are Pro Life (the organization) sat down and really had an open conversation with someone that has had an abortion and really listened to what they had to say? Or to someone that was about the get an abortion and really listened to them? I have and every time, I hear the same things, they feel a tremendous amount of shame and hurt, etc but they also felt a deep sense of abandonment from a system that let them down. Both sides can bring a lot to the table to solve this issue but neither side seems that interested in listening. Not sure this argument is founded......thousands of children are being aborted being not failed by the system of gov't but aided by it......that's why it is politcal...trying to play catch up with all that are getting pregnant that will consider the "option" of death to their child few if any will consider that conversation unless itis with someone that already knows about the pregnancy which is usally the reason for getting the abortion to hide shame or regret for pre-marital sex especially at such a young age.

Right, and we know that the pro-death (sorry, "pro-choice") folks never, ever politicize anything.

tgender - thanks for the question. What that means is that so many of us Christians aren't really pro-life as much as Pro-Life (the proper noun - in other words, the organization). And that is a double-pronged statement.

A) We seem to be concerned with the well being of the baby only to the point that it is born. After that, all bets are off. Being pro-life (not the organization) means that we have a consistant ethic on all human life, whether that life is on death row, homeless in a park somewhere or in a mother's womb.

And B) Some of the tactics taken by Pro-Life (the proper noun) don't seem in line with God's grace. It seems to be more like the crusades, win at all costs.

Clearly the issue comes down to whether it is indeed human life or just a part of the mother. I of course think its a human life. But when both sides put up straw men and scream and shout, no healthy dialogue can occur. Have any of you that are Pro Life (the organization) sat down and really had an open conversation with someone that has had an abortion and really listened to what they had to say? Or to someone that was about the get an abortion and really listened to them? I have and every time, I hear the same things, they feel a tremendous amount of shame and hurt, etc but they also felt a deep sense of abandonment from a system that let them down. Both sides can bring a lot to the table to solve this issue but neither side seems that interested in listening.

ifeelfine72--
"when folks that claim to be pro-life politicize the issue so much, its no surprise that the other side fights it so hard"

What does your statement mean?

GMG - Makes perfect sense to me.

How anyone can be against notifying parents is beyond me. I understand it is a sensative subject but parents have a right to know what their children are doing - regardless of where you stand on this particular issue. It just shows you that there are those that are pro-choice that clearly are willing to advance a cause at costs.

Of course, when folks that claim to be pro-life politicize the issue so much, its no surprise that the other side fights it so hard. If people on my side (against abortion) seemed half as concerned with the well being of the mother and child as they are with the political implications, open dialogue and solutions wouldn't be this difficult.

It's too bad that liberal democrats don't have the same repugnance for Big Abortion that they do for Big Oil and Big Tobacco.

Last I knew, abortion was a medical procedure. Aren't all other medical procedures on minors required to have the consent of the parent? This should not even be an issure, for that reason alone.

I read a caption once that went like this....This man decided to make a baby and leave it's mother and have no responsibility. .. He's called a dead beat dad....This woman decided to make a baby and not have any responsibility and went and had an abortion....she's called pro-choice......Why are our laws so relative.....to certain special interests groups.

I think it's slightly ironic that whether or not life begins in the womb is no longer a quetion but whether that life has any rights. . . . .up to the removal of 3/4ths of it's body.(sickening) after that life is out it now has more rights than you. People can be prosecuted for murder for causing the death of a pregnant woman who has lost a child, you can even be prosecuted for the destruction of that famous bald-headed eagle egg. . .it's a felony. . . but when it comes to children (pro-choice) so-called (women's rights) so-called seem to trump all other standing laws. . . I would hate to play cards with them.

I believe it is a parents right to know what is going on with their teenagers. I am tired of planed parenthood clinics telling parents it is none of thier business what the 14 year old does. They have no problem however demanding $60.00 to $90.00 for a checkup on the teens. It is just another way goverment is telling us how to spend our money and we have no input.