Christian Right Leaders Respond to Dobson’s Concerns

Comments

• seedplanter

  Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:55 am : 0 : 1 Flag

  Brainetree,
  
  Very well written post. You kind of seem to be talking in circles here however. On one hand you proclaim liberty and on the other hand you criticize those who are putting into practice their constitutional responsibilities. You judge them for not being totally 100% other worldly, while at the same time criticizing them for taking part in God’s kingdom on earth. You would probably be quick to quote how God sets up the rulers; yet quick to criticize that same fallible man.
  
  You should study a bit more of the history involved here and then maybe you would be able to articulate your thoughts with better understanding. Furthermore, if you think this is about some kind of theocracy, I think that is overkill. There are numerous strategies in full swing to undermine our religious freedom. Maybe you should browse some of the alternative news outlets such as WND. There is a reason why America is a nation where people are dying to get in rather than dying to get out.
  
  Then again, why am I telling you this? You probably are a member of atheists united for the separation between church and state. This is not a secularist society and it was never intended to be. I don’t know what bothers you secular humanists the most; that a Christian like Bush could be put in office today or that a radical left-wing Christian like Obama can take over the alternative political camp. Maybe it just bothers you that Christians are tired of being walked on in the political process.
  
  Mr. Braintree, may I ask which party you will be voting for? Maybe it will be the Green Party? You know, I am a Christian first, but I do love my country. I am especially intrigued by the history of our great nation and even more so of what made it so great. There is nothing stopping revolutionaries as yourself from moving across the boarder. That is to say, if America is so terrible.

• brainetree

  Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:38 pm : 1 : 1 Flag

  Would that the Christian Right, as a movement, were dead. Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world." It is an apostate and spiritually dead church that seeks political power. Whenever the church has obtained secular power, she has employed it to punish dissent from her doctrines.
  
  You who are itching to get control of the state, you are on the wrong track. Our Founding Fathers wisely sought to guard against the employment of securlar power on the part of the church with its inevitable result, intolerance and persecution. The Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
  
  "The Bush administration has steadily diverted billions of dollars of taxpayer money from secular and governmental social-service organizations to faith-based organizations, bankrolling churches and organizations that seek to dismantle American democracy and create a theocratic state. . . the wall between church and state is being disassembled." Fascist Americans by Chris Hedges, p. 23.
  
  President Bush has set in operation elements that will strengthen the fascist Christian Right and turn our beloved America into a nation we no longer recognize. These forces are poised and ready, in the event of a great fiscal crisis, to ruthlessly seize control in the name of national security and turn America into theocratic dictatorship.
  
  Concludes Catherine Crier in a Huffingtonpost dot com article "CONTEMPT -- How the Right Is Wronging American Justice": "For all of those Americans who believe that our democracy is safe, you are wrong. Today, the radical Right is winning, and they know it. Sooner rather than later, we may be living in a very different country, a country that had been ours, a country that will be theirs."
  
  "What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of civil authority; in many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient allies."
  -James Madison

• jar1961

  Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:42 pm : 1 : 0 Flag

  God will raise up a prophet...or 2.... there will always be someone fighting at the fore.... And who God calls He equips.. fear not...

• wrhalver

  Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:08 am : 3 : 0 Flag

  It just doesn't sound like either Jackson or Perkins would carry the same message for conservatives as Dobson and his generation have.
  
  I'm sure their book will do well though.

• speedreed

  Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:35 pm : 2 : 0 Flag

  Don't call it a movement. That carries a connotation of a fad. While there are new issues that we may be dealing with today than 20-30 years ago, those issues are simply symptoms of a sinful and depraved world. The Church must continue (or arguably begin) to take a stand for holiness and refuse to compromise the core doctrines of the faith. This is what our "movement" must be known for. The individual organizations and ministries should focus on a single issue or symptom, trying to tackle it from a Christ-like perspective using Christ-like methods.

• ML

  Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:57 pm : 0 : 0 Flag

  These men and women are great citizens of the kingdom of God. They do their best, but it is up to the mainstream America population to carry the cross, raise children with moral values, and patriotism, along with compassion for the poor and to lift up the oppressed. Everyone in America is responsible to love their fellow man and give dignity and the saving gospel of the Lord to others in the USA and to our world.

• pburwell

  Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:11 pm : 0 : 1 Flag

  James, what is the difference between Fundamentalists and Ecumenicals?
  The difference is as clear as the definition of heresy.
  You Believe Yahweh and do what He says you are a fundamentalist. Ecumenicals don't...
  And they both claim the title "evangelical".
  "fundamentalist evangelical" ?
  Patrick J. Burwell / OnlyJesusSaves.com

Most Commented Articles

• La. Governor Signs 'Science Education Act'

• Obama Prying Loose Evangelicals from Republicans

• Federal Marriage Amendment Re-introduced in Senate

• Why I Thank God for Charles Darwin

• Anglican Head Sees Risks in Conservative Proposals

• PCUSA Assembly Approves Deleting Gay Clergy Ban

• Arizona Puts Marriage Amendment on Ballot - Again