I agree with Valkyrie1966 “What is the world is the heretic Brian doing at Willow Creek?” This is an outrage!

Why are youth leaving the church you ask? I’ll tell you why. They are tired of fake Christians and so am I. They are Pharisee’s and Sadducees of our day. They create their own spiritual laws and do not believe in nor involve God’s power in directing their life.

As outreach director of our youth ministry but most importantly as a disciple of Christ Jesus, a minister cannot lead anyone any place that they have never been. God expects His body to not only act like it but also BE His body on the earth. Politics and gimmicks are not necessary. Humanism and psychology never gave world new holy nature or abundant life, so why is the "Church" using it as teaching principles? There is NO backdoor approach into God's kingdom were the secretly self-absorbed may have their way. Christians need to be the real thing and allow Jesus to live His life through them. God has no mavericks in His kingdom. You cannot live outside a King's will, dominion and government then expect His favor and Him to just go along with your own plans. If God got on his people Israel about their compromise, how much will he deal with those one-on-one who are really His and who are suppose to be members of His own body. We all from time to time need to examine ourselves to see if "we be of the faith." Don't disqualify yourself by displaced faith. We call maverick cells in human body (which do their own thing) cancer, and God has a way of dividing his sheep (who follow Him) from goats (who subbornly butt against His will). Whose side are we on?

The contemporary church has replaced the power of God in demonstration of signs and wonders with sport and entertainment. Where are the people who have not bowed their knee to Baal? Christian, get back in the prayer room, get back to sacrificial love, go back to the place of intimacy and worship unto the Lord Jesus Christ. This is the Holy Spirit of God that brings conviction of sin, righteousness, and of a judgment to come. We of all people should not be resisting His work of making us holy daily. Revival starts with the individual before it reaches a multitude. Without to resurrection life of Jesus Christ we are an empty shell and spiritually dead, cut off from the God and His Kingdom. The sin and heresy of the nicolaitans found in Revelations 2:6, was that they considered Jesus merely savior of sin, but not Lord to rule over us from within. Their Gnostic worldview allowed the early church to look more like the world even as it does today. If there is no cry or hunger after God and His righteousness, now is the best time to begin. For more information…

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http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com/#the_message_that_we_were_born_to_hear

Quecat,
You are absolutely correct. This world 's mindset is to creat for itself ways to extend life, clean up the environment and so forth. The scripture teaches this world is not going to last forever. This is not to say we are not responsible to God for taking care of His creation as it is responsibility. But when the mindset is that we are going to preserve it for better eternal purposes we miss the mark. We are to take care of our planet but only in preparation for the coming of the Lord. Good post. Thanks

What's at issue here is McLaren's (and others) Dominionism mindset that says Christians should focus on "making the world a better place".
The Bible doesn't teach that anywhere. It does teach to spread the gospel to every nation, tribe and tongue and to make disciples of men.
It's misguided to think that somehow by being more "caring" about social and environmental issues that somehow we're going to avert this world's downward spiral. It's a clever rabbit trail that the Deceiver is leading people down - distracting them from what should be their primary mission.

The Bible teaches Christ's return for his saints and and the horrors of the end times Tribulation. It doesn't say "mankind is going to create,for himself, a utopia through loving the creation."

Rom 1:21-22,25 "...when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,...
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

When Paul was in prison - he didn't advocate for 'social justice'. He continued in spreading the gospel, even unto death.
In Mark 14:7 Jesus said "For you have the poor with you always, and whenever you wish you may do them good..."
He didn't say that by "being more charitable, together, we can stamp out poverty".

Now then - can we focus on the Great Commission and less on touchy-feely, "efforts-that-make-me-feel-better-about-myself-as-a-person" timewasters?

coffee, I can't figure out what you are trying to say.

The gospel, the real one, not the one Mclaren preaches, will save, if only we believe it enough to speak it without compromise. The kids who the Holy Spirit is calling through the gospel will believe, and the others will go on and leave, or at least NOT believe.

Having misguided or out of priority concerns is a sign of immaturity at best, and lack of love of the truth *(e.g. those who are saved will love the truth) at worst.

If young people come into our churches with "concerns" that we don't like, how do we make them forget all of them and take up the traditional fundamentalist ones: abortion, homosexual lifestyle, etc?? Would their "misguided "concerns show that they're not really saved? And if they were, they would shrug off all of those other issues?

Mat 18:6-7 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!"

One shudders to think of the judgment in store for one such as Mr. McLaren who spreads a false gospel. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Gasoline!

http://poleblog.polemos.net/2007/01/gasoline_04.html

Mr. McLaren has revealed his heretical beliefs as Valkyrie has correctly noted.

What we are witnessing now is the emergence of the true beliefs of Bill Hybels and his followers.

This is not just a blip on the radar. The Willow Creek Association is a network of over 12,000 churches!

Is your church a member?

Find out now:
https://www.willowcreek.com/wca_info/find_a_church/ProfileSearch.asp

Brian McLaren is a heretic who teaches that there is no literal hell and he teaches against the penal substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ. What was he doing at Willow Creek? That's the real issue here. Willow Creek was warned and responded that it didn't matter. Did you get that. It didn't matter. No hell below us.....Just like the Beatles' song.