A high-power panel of left-wing experts on religion and politics assembled Thursday afternoon to discuss the impact of the religious voice, including that of the religious right, on the presidential campaign.
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Michelle A. Vu
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Fri, Apr. 25 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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This is total blasphemy, to even say or assert that God supports either side of the political spectrum!
How can any true christian say such a thing when the VERY Founder of Christianity refused to become King several times and the night before his death said in prayer to His God and Father, "I am not part of the world and they [his disciples, both then and now] are not part of the world"?
Does not the letter of James say that friendship with the world means enmity with God (James 4:4)?
What these people do not realize is that, sooner or later, politicians will get tired of having so many "christians" or "religious" people meddling in the affairs of state and may even take actions against churches and other denominations...
If "christians" would only do what Jesus did... the world would be a far better place
Who are these self proclaims "high powered left wing Experts" anyway???? Whatever. I can't believe people actually listen to this dribble!
This string shows how pathetic the "party" of Christ is. Here I see people arguing over which party-the parties' allegiences are not to Jesus of Nazareth but to power-is "more" Christian. They are both for political power and that is all. Colson spoke of this many years ago when he spoke about how easy it was to get the religious folks behind the Repubs with rhetoric only.
we should be concentrating on Jesus, not power.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
seedplanter "Of course little mind that Bill Clinton also developed his own plans to invade"
Clinton talked tough, but he was way too intelligent to get caught up an Iraq quagmire. Unfortunately bush is not as intelligent and his neocon handlers lead him into a debacle that even bush privately probably regrets, if he has any brains at all . America is responsible for the death and destruction of Iraq and its people, analogous to Vietnam.
Assess their religious worldviews by their actions and words. Progressive is another word for marxist. "Faith"; everybody has faith (a belief system) also known as a religious worldview. Over 80% of Americans consider themselves Christian, but only 4% are actual Bible believing evangelicals who have accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior.
Both Hillary and Obama profess the humanist worldview in their politics and voting record. The planks of the Democrat party are humanist and more and more the Republicans' planks are becoming humanist. The socialist gospel is not biblical, but a marxist based position pretending to be Christian.
ifeelfine, It was the church that was the first responders to Katrina, not the Democrats or the Republicans. However, who was it that was too busy playing the blame game to help anyone out? Do you understand that Louisiana voted in Republican Bobby Jindal, the first Indian-American governor in U.S. history? Jindal is also a Catholic and a staunch conservative.
Yes there are questions whether or not even a born baby is a human being, at least for Obama. If you want to call a baby that has the capacity to live outside of the womb questionable, well go for it. Just don’t expect everyone to jump on the bandwagon with you and wacky Wallis.
You love to use Iraq as an attack on Bush, but Bush is not running for office, but if he was he would have my vote over the Hilary/Obama machine. Your spurious attack completely sidesteps the notion that Democrats voted in favor of invading Iraq. Of course little mind that Bill Clinton also developed his own plans to invade. It also completely ignores the intelligence services’ numerous reports revealing WMDs, not to mention the other countries supporting the invasion. France, the most outspoken critic of the invasion elected the most US friendliest Prime Minister. You read too much big media propaganda. Are you aware that the BBC admitted their biases against the war when they refused to run a story by a reporter that was too positive?
FYI, it was I who gave you the thumbs down, since you like to demand an account.
I find it odd that, someone couldfind it a little odd that there is a religious right, and left. Such has existed ever since Martin Luther acquired enough followers to become a sect of the Roman Catholic Church. Who was/is on the left or the right depended on who was a sect of what sect. To be either a Democrat or a Republican does require a bit of moral ambiguity, Lord knows there's enough of that going around.
1man: Tell me, what are repugs doing for the least amongst us? Besides letting them die in Katrina, sending them off to war and otherwise marginalizing them? Are the dems perfect? No! I don't agree with their stance on abortion but at least there is some plausible deniability on that issue (there are questions about when life begins, etc). If you don't care about a middle class and the poor - by all means, vote repuglican.
"Meanwhile, the Democratic candidates are more at ease speaking the language of faith and drawing connections between their moral foundation and their policy stance". . . . B.O.'s and Hillary's moral foundation seems to be built on shifting sand given the comments listed by JC..thanx
mcfbc I do not consider them bible believing Christians because they do not believe the way I do. . .I believe that the bible is true and not to be interpreted in the light of my own beliefs (Barak) nor left to those in leadership of a particular denomination that can't seem to figure out if the bible really says what it says (Hillary).
"“I’ve been shocked that a lot of folks on the religious right are wanting dialogue with some of us on the progressive end,” ...I think he meant liberal end.....
I find it a little odd that there is a religious right, and left, while I do not agree with everything that the "right" has done I still can not bring myself to become democrat in light of their party's view on virtually all moral issues facing legilative restriction or freedom.
This article reeks of self-righteous pride. Both nominees have made their positions clear, with their voting records. They were given a job to do, and they did it. Why would they change course now?
06/07/2006 Same Sex Marriage Resolution (Making it illegal for states to recognize gay marriage). Hillary voted No. Barak voted No.
06/11/2002 - Hate Crimes Bill - The addition of sexual orientation. Hillary voted Yes. No listing for Barak.
7/18/2006 - Stem Cell Research Bill - To authorize federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Hillary voted Yes. Barak voted Yes.
9/06/2007 - Prohibiting U.S. assistance for groups that support coercive abortion. Hillary - No Vote. Barak - No Vote.
10/18/2007 - Prohibiting funds for groups that perform abortions. Hillary - No vote. Barak - No vote.
(interesting that as these two are running for President, they abstain from voting, why is that? There are many examples of this in their voting record.)
03/25/2004 - Unborn Victims of Violence Act - A bill that would make it a criminal offense if a fetus is injured or killed while carrying out a violent crime on a pregnant woman. Hillary voted No. No listing for Barak.
But, just a month later. 4/22/2004 - Victims' Rights Bill - Hillary Yes. No listing for Barak.
These are just a few of many.
Source: http://www.votesmart.org
Talk about judgemental. Why do you not believe they are Christians, because they don't believe the same way you do politically?
I am not impressed with these left wing liberals. I do not see them as bible believing christians.