Moderators of Sunday’s faith forum spared the Democratic presidential candidates no mercy as they drilled them on difficult theological questions ranging from “Why does God allow people to suffer?” to “Do you believe that God created the world in six days?”
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Obama, Clinton Face Deep Questions on God, Bible
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Mon, Apr. 14 2008 07:46 AM EDT
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I think this is pretty simple, Jesus asked the apostles" Who do YOU say that I am" See Matt16:13-17. Peter answered "You are the Christ". I have asked this question of others and gage if they are my brother or sister by their answer.
It is unfair to ask a question of faith and expect an perfect answer of reason.
Where reason is finite, faith is infinite. To make it simple, when one runs out of reason the next stept is to take a leap of faith…….and if you are a man of true faith, YOU will never fail. The reality is Faith do coexist with Reason. The real question is how to integraet and differenciate both to a common Good for the benefit of mankind.
Both of these pres. candidates would feel right at home with the antichrist.
........GOD HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA.......... the nation is goin down down down
Obama has said there is another "way" into heaven other than Jesus. He claims that his grandmother who was not a believer is in heaven. This is what the Bible says:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
4 Who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Needless to say that the answer from both presidential candidates always falls short of the truth
This effort to touch some of the basic questions from the Holy Bible seems to be another political PR effort than anything substantial.
From my perspective, their answers are pathetic. Always hedging and avoiding the real issue.
If this Q&A was on my TV, I would change the channel in 2 seconds. Yawn.
Let me make this simple:
Moderator Question: " Blah, blah, blah, God, Bible, abortion, etc., etc,."
Clinton Answer: I dunno.
Obama Answer: Ditto.
But, I did like Clinton's use of the phrase "potential" life. I guess that is like "sort of pregnant."
Obama and Clinton have absolutely ZERO credibility every time they attempt to talk about their religious faith. It's simply embarrassing and painful to hear them even try to converse about faith when everyone knows that are doing it for raw political purposes.
Howard;
Every human, including politicians and bureaucrats, have a religious worldview. Their worldview dictates what they say and do. Religion is in every aspect of our lives, be it Chrisitian, humanist, LDS, etc. It just depends upon the true religion Vs the false religions. Humanism is a false and devastating religion. We'll see some of that portrayed in Expelled. Both Hilary and Obama incorporate most of Humanism into their policies and proposals. They may or may not truly believe in an Almighty God, but they most definitely have placed the state in a position of a god as is the policiy of Humanism.
BTW; our nation was originally founded on the Christian Worldview principles; Declaration of Independence, Constitution, etc. We saw those principles whittled away through the 20th century to now we have a nanny state; here to tend to all our needs and plow us into bankruptcy and lead us into moral decay.
I pray Senators Obama and Clinton will have the courage to talk about Jesus Christ and mention the name of Jesus, not just say Christ, when they discuss their faith in depth like this. May they be filled with the Holy Spirit when they speak (if they are truly Christian) so we are not just charmed by them, but inspired by the Holy Spirit to have stronger faith in the Christ they have so much faith in. Tell Us His Name at least.
Say His name and demons are afraid. Mention his Blood and evil runs away.
Hope Page: http://itsallaboutjesusnotme.blogspot.com
Howard,
Why does Hillary and Barack have to explain their faith and what it means? Because they want to. They want to so they can relate to voters and get more votes. Hilary could pray once a year, and she would still say that in important decisions she always prays. Atheism makes up an extremely small percentage of the population, Christianity makes up a large percentage, thus they must explain their faith and it is vitally important. You can try to separate religion and politics, but you cannot separate people and politics.
Yeah, OK!!!! So Clinton and Obama answered some "religious questions." Both are "devout" Christians, but BOTH OF THEM approve of the murder of the unborn and the homosexualization of this nation!!! So much for faith....They are clouds without water!!!
REPENT, FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!!!
Jesus commanded us to "go into all nations" talling the "good news" that He shed His blood for the remission of our sins. If we keep our beliefs to ourselves, we are going against His
commandments.
The hard facts, that many Christian don't know, is that because we sent our army to Iraq, the
new constitution allows the people to become Christian without fear of loss of life and women
are having a new freedom there that they have not had since 6,500 AD. If our soldiers were martyred for those people for that reason, there is great rejoicing in heaven over those heros.
secular: "Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body"
Unlike Iran, America has a secular government.
"Who told you our government was supposed to be secular?"
I thought everyone knew that. Did you think America is a theocracy?
Supernatural beliefs should be private. Candidates for president should not have to argue about who is the most holy. They should be talking about the nation's problems and our future, instead of talking about religious ideas. They are campaigning for president, not preacher.
Hey Howard. Who told you our government was supposed to be secular? Where did you get this idea from? Media? Talk shows? CNN?
No, Howard. There is no such thing as not having a world view. The "Secular" world view, known as "secularism", is a RELIGION as plainly as Christianity is, as is so stated by the United States Supreme Court both in 1962 and 1968.
The reason, Howard, that a person's religious views are indeed VERY important is because you want to know what their views ARE. You don't want someone who operates on polls do you? You want someone who actually has a conscience right? You want to vote in someone who believes in what you can trust in, don't you? Well, how else can you vote for someone if they will will not tell you who they are and what they believe?
Simple common sense here.
Patrick J Burwell / OnlyJesusSaves.com
"Obama, Clinton Face Deep Questions on God, Bible"
I thought Obama and Clinton were running for president of the United States, not preacher of the United States. Don't we have a secular government? What does God and the Bible have to do with economic and foreign policy?
I heard that in Europe politicians never discuss religion when campaigning. That's make sense. A person's beliefs should be private. A politician's supernatural beliefs, if he has any, should have nothing to do with secular governments.
Maybe Obama and/or Hillary mentioned Jesus' name, and I missed it?
Christianity is all about Jesus! How can Obama or Hillary, two professing Christians, talk about their faith in depth and not even mention our Lord and Savior's name? His name is Jesus!!
Hope Page: http://itsallaboutjesusnotme.blogspot.com
Let's see....Hilary and Barack are both pro-abortion, which is the murdering of children and pro-gay marriage or at least civil unions. They don' t sound like Christians to me.
I don't like McCain much, but he seems the best and at least he is openly against gay marriage and he is against abortion. He needs to see the light on embryonic stem cells and why we shouldn't kill embryos either.
I pray if McCain is elected that a Prolife Supreme Court Justice may get elected!
I'm just at a loss for why Hillary's denomination struggles with whether life begins at conception or not. At the moment of conception a third organism (i.e., a third person) is now part of the equation, living and growing at a rate that neither parent can either speed up or slow down. Friends, you have life at conception.
I suspect the struggle involves "how do we acknowledge that life begins at conception and still support contra-ception?"
xizwyck,
Good point, God knows whats is best for us. I would also add though that most people bring it on themselves by opening themselves up to demons, by living in habitual sin.
On suffering, look at James 1, 1 Peter 4. It explains why we suffer.
And if one asks, "How could a loving God allow good people to suffer?" First, understand the person asking, "Do they feel that they are more fair or more just that God?" Who are we to declare to God what is fair and just, save by His own words (in the Bible)? Second, "Do you honestly feel that you are more compassionate or loving than God?" How many of us would not only accept the punishment for a crime that we did not commit, let alone take on the burden of everyone who has sinned?
I am reminded of when Job asked God why. God responded with about 3 chapters of worth of reasons why Job shouldn't ask. But it goes like this: "Were you there when I created the world? When I caused the seas to start and the land to end? Did I consult you on how to make the sun and the stars? Etc...
We are so full of ourselves, generally speaking.
We suffer to make us learn and grow. It's that simple. Also remember that our suffering is NOTHING in comparison to that which Christ did for us!