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Oct 15,2009, 9:33PM

Quantum Entanglement: A 'Type' of "The God Connection"?

When God created the universe and the laws of physics, did He leave a 'connection' with all particles and forces within it?

 Biblical scholars and theologians are fond of studying events in the old testament that they call "types and shadows'.  These are events that are similar to, and are prophetic of, other events to follow at a later time. Joseph in Egypt was a 'type' of Jesus in saving his family and the world from the famine of that time.  Moses led the children of Israel out of bondage to the promised land, another 'type' of Jesus.

A definition of "types" and "shadows" is:

 "A reflection, a phantom, a silhouette" (Barclay p. 88).  "A glimpse and shadow" (Rhm); "A mere outline and shadow" (Mof); "Only a pattern or reproduction" (Phi).  ...  "It may be fairly well detailed, but it is not the original" (Reese p. 127).  "Many of the Old Testament institutions were 'types" or 'previews of coming attractions'" (p. 127).

 It seems there are themes and 'designs' in science that seem to repeat and recur in nature. Scientists and theologians have long wondered about the 'dualism' in particles and forces in the universe, nature, and morality. For example, matter and antimatter, positive and negative charges, male, female, good and evil, etc.

 When atomic theory became the dominate theory of matter around the turn of the last century, the model of Neils Bohr, of hard round particles orbiting the atomic nucleus, was compared to the planetary system of our sun. The same theme is recurrent in galactic structure and the orbits of stars, star clusters, and gasses. It seemed that a basic structure was promulgated from the very smallest objects to the very largest.

 We have since seen that the atom is much more complicated and that the objects orbiting the nucleus are not 'hard' and definite, but are both particle and wave in their structure. The nucleus itself is very complex and the once hard objects that we call neutrons, and protons are actually made up of 'quarks' and other nebulous subatomic particles.

 In religion we have a belief that in order to communicate with God, a person enters into a state of consciousness that we call prayer. Through  prayer, a spiritual connection is made to God and He hears our thoughts and we receive assurance that He acknowledges our wishes. Is there a similar "type" in the physical world for that connection?

 The idea in quantum entanglement is that every particle in a particle-antiparticle pair is in instant communication with the other particle, regardless of how far apart they are. 

It is a phenomenon that was experimentally proven, just recently, by scientists in Geneva Switzerland, in 2008.

 In this experiment a single particle - antiparticle pair was sent streaming away from the source in opposite directions, and they were detected when they were about 20 miles away from each other. The 'entanglement'  phenomenon was proven when a 'detection' of one particle instantly produced an identical change in the other particle.

This 'instantaneous' transmission of information defies Einstein's theory of relativity and the speed of light. A calculation was made that determined that the speed of this experiment was at least 10,000 times the speed of light and perhaps was instantaneous.

 The size of the particles of this discussion are at the subatomic level, far below 'microscope' level. Some scientists think that at this level, there is a universal 'connection' that transcends space/time and allows  all particles to be 'in contact' with every other particle in the universe in a way that we have yet to understand. Below the 'quantum' or Planck level, the definitions of space and time become obscure and tend to blur.

 If all particles are somehow connected below the Planck level, it would seem to say that we all have a universal connection to each other and perhaps that is the medium through which prayer is channeled.

That much is pure speculation, but if God created all the physical laws and the universe in such a way that He is never out of touch both  spiritually and physically, and is omnipresent everywhere at once, it confirms what Christians and Jews have always said about his presence and the ease with which we are in touch with Him. Jesus said "The kingdom of Heaven is within you."

It means that He knows every thought, every event, and everything that happens in the universe. It also says that no matter how far you travel, or how much you transgress His will,  He is always near.

Quantum Entanglement: A 'Type' of "The God Connection"?
When God created the universe and the laws of physics, did He leave a 'connection' with all particles and forces within it?  Biblical scholars and theologians are fond of studying events in the old testament that they call "types and shadows'.  These are events that are similar to, and are prophetic of, other events to follow at a later time. Joseph in Egypt was a 'type' of Jesus i...
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1.November 19,2009, 12:20PM
Pureword, As you probably already know, at the level of Quarks, the theory is that nothing really exists until we look for it. Schrodinger's cat illustrated that all things exist in a state of limbo until we "look inside the box". I don't know how true that is but very real experiments suggest that it is true. Perhaps all reality is in a probability 'state' at that level until we look and when we do we make a decision as to which of an infinite number of universes we move into. But to suggest that seems to say that there is no 'reality' at all at the macro level. I don't believe that. There must be something we are missing. Quarks are not the fundamental particle, string theory says that even quarks are composed of strings in different configurations. At some point I believe that the 'physical' merges with the 'spiritual' and that is an area below strings and anything that is what we call physical. Perhaps that is the level you are suggesting?
--aepling
2.November 18,2009, 11:39PM
Allen, sorry. I didn't communicate to you in the way I wanted to. I am trying to correlate the natural (physical) world to the spiritual world and that is a very difficult task. Paul said that he saw things that were unspeakable (meaning that the things he saw in the spiritual world were unexplicable in the natural). John said that he was in "the spirit" and saw things that he tried to bring to the natural. That's why we have such a difficult time understanding Revelations. It was received in the spirit and tried to be explained in the natural. It's like trying to, as you put it, bring parallel universes together and have one understand or comprehend the other.

Trying to bring this to a realm where we can comprehend both natural and spiritual is difficult, but I believe achievable. Jesus used parables to try to accomplish that and yet at first His own disciples did not perceive.

"Seek and ye shall find" is a spiritual principle that we have yet to fully understand and I believe that we could better comprehend if there were a "natural" or "physical" correlation to it. The concept of the "quark" being a physical substance which had to be "sought after" in order to be discovered or found, greatly intrigued me. I wanted to know if there is more scientific evidence about the "quark" that would bring light to the spiritual principle of "seek and ye shall find".
--PureWord
3.November 18,2009, 2:08PM
Pureword: First, I believe in "seek and ye shall find". I have practicedit all my life. I don't know how that applies to quantum mechanics and the "uncertainty" principle. Nobody yet really knows what that means and until we do, I can't say how it fits in.

As far as light and sound. Waves are simply a transfer of energy from one place to another. Sound is a transfer of energy at a very low frequency through a solid medium. Light is extremely high frequencey energy which is transmitted through the electromagnetic medium that is everywhere, even in space. It would be hard to see how to get light from sound, yet, thats not to say its impossible. With God, anything is possible.
--aepling
4.November 16,2009, 9:32AM
Allen, I have a couple of questions. Since I am not a scientist or physicist I have a very limited understanding of much of this. I understand that a quark does not appear or make itself known (for lack of better terms) until someone looks for it or seeks after it. If that is true, could you make a comparison to a spiritual principle "seek and ye shall find"?

Second question: Since sound and light are both comprised of waves could it be proven that light waves have their source in sound waves. God said (spoke in sound waves) "let there be light." And if logic follows that concept, since God "spoke" everything into existence then everything that exists would be comprised of sound waves.
--PureWord
5.October 16,2009, 12:58PM
Thank you for your 'enlightened' response. I have never discounted Einstein's views of Quantum Mechanics and EPR, while trying to stay current with other concepts such as 'String Theory'. It is certain that our concept of 'reality' is not complete and is much more complex than current theories suggest. We are still looking for the one unifying link that can bring it all together, gravity, relativity, and QM.
--aepling
6.October 16,2009, 11:06AM
I personally believe that God did create the Universe and it is up to us to decode the clues that he left for us. The EPR paradox I firmly believe is one of those clues.

Einstein was right about the shortcomings of Quantum Mechanics and so therefore String Theory is also the incorrect approach. As an alternative to Quantum Theory there is a new theory that describes and explains the mysteries of physical reality. While not disrespecting the value of Quantum Mechanics as a tool to explain the role of quanta in our universe. This theory states that there is also a classical explanation for the paradoxes such as EPR and the Wave-Particle Duality. The Theory is called the Theory of Super Relativity and is located at: http://www.superrelativity.org
This theory is a philosophical attempt to reconnect the physical universe to realism and deterministic concepts. It explains the mysterious.
--mmfiore
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