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Nov 15,2009, 7:59PM

Urban Legends in the Pulpit

Christians believe they worship the God who is truth. So why is it that they often play fast and loose with the truth? "Fast and loose with the truth?" you say. "What are you talking about O Tentative Apologist?"

Well let me put it this way: I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard an urban legend in the pulpit. If I did, I'd probably have enough to take my wife out for dinner and a movie. In case you're wondering, yes, that's too many (especially considering the price of movies these days).

Perhaps you've heard this illustration of the power of prayer:

A missionary returned to report at his home church in Michigan. In the service he told them that he had been traveling through the jungle in Africa alone when a young man came up to him. This young man informed the missionary that his gang had been planning on robbing the missionary the previous night when he was camping alone in the woods.

However, they called off the attack when they came upon his campsite and saw him surrounded by twenty six large body guards. Since he was travelling alone, this testimony left the missionary stunned and confused. But not the Michigan church. Suddenly a man in the congregation stood up and asked the missionary what day this event had happened. When the missionary told him, the church realized that it was the same day that twenty-six members of the congregation had gathered to pray for the missionary's safety.

Here's the obvious lesson: prayer has the power to change things. Well sure, I believe it does. But I also know that this is a documented urban legend with no basis in reality (though I have heard it used in two different sermon illustrations). Here is what the well-respected urban legend website "Snopes" says about the case: "it's sadly ironic that so many tales contrived to display a particular belief system as The One True Way include fabrications tossed in to better carry the message." (http://www.snopes.com/glurge/26guards.asp)

Sadly ironic indeed. I believe there are many powerful examples of the power of prayer. I have experienced some myself. So why do pastors not draw upon some of these real cases instead of cases that could be spotted a mile away by any moderately trained folklorist? Why are pastors and congregants alike often so credulous?

I suspect some Christians will not appreciate this reprimand. Why don't I shut up and cheer for the home team? But I am. We must keep in mind that the home team is always truth and our fidelity to it. And how can we claim to be disciples of truth in the big things when we are unfaithful to truth in the small things?

Urban Legends in the Pulpit
Christians believe they worship the God who is truth. So why is it that they often play fast and loose with the truth? "Fast and loose with the truth?" you say. "What are you talking about O Tentative Apologist?"
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1.November 17,2009, 12:54PM
It is not rare for Chritianites to assert something like:

> I believe there are many powerful examples of the power of prayer.

So why cannot I find even one that stands up to modest skepticism?

> I have experienced some myself.

Which is fine to convice you, but much less so for another.
--beetle496
2.November 17,2009, 2:28AM
RD: "Don't think I didn't see that one coming."

Indeed -- I actually figured you were baiting the atheists to say something.

RD: "Where to begin? How about this. As C.S. Lewis observed in "Miracles" it is very naive to assume that ancient peoples were not highly skeptical of miracle claims (particularly ancient Jews)."

Well, when I read the Gospels, I notice that King Herod, when told of the miracles that Jesus is performing, declares in typical skeptical fashion that Jesus must be John the Baptist (the man he had beheaded) back from the dead.

Of course, the surrounding crowds thought Jesus might have been Elijah, back from the dead. Or Jeremiah back from the dead. Or, as Herod thought, John the Baptist, back from the dead. The skeptical crowds came up with enough ideas of who it was that was back from the dead that the Gospel writers name a few and then say, "or other prophets, back from the dead."

At a minimum, this was a time when a person can explain away reports of miracles by suggesting that the reports indicate a powerful dead person who came back to life.

My personal favorite story that helps give an idea of the intense credulity of the time is the one where the town mistakes Paul for Zeus! Paul barely manages to stop the high priest of the Temple of Zeus from offering a sacrifice to Paul/Zeus.

But maybe you are right that the majority of Jews at the time were skeptical of superstitions -- that could be an explanation for why the majority of Jews, and almost none of the Sanhedrin ever became Christian.
--ConverseAtheist
3.November 16,2009, 6:50PM
Crannog,

On the free will question, it depends what theory of free will one holds. Most people are de facto incompatibilists, meaning that they believe determination and free will are incompatible. If you hold this view then for you to pray that God would convert someone does not necessarily entail a prayer that God override the person's free will, although it could. But it could also mean that you are praying God would provide the circumstances in which the person would freely, apart from determination, choose of their own volition to follow him.

If you are a compatibilist and believe that free will is compatible with determination (of some kinds at least) then there is no problem with praying that God would determine someone's free choice.
--RD Rauser
4.November 16,2009, 6:15PM
Wow, I wish I could have been there! Just like for the church where the fire department was called out to douse the flames reported by the neighbours coming from the roof (during a powerful worship service) or to witness the man with the withered and shrunken leg which filled out before everyones eyes at a healing service, but no, as usual I'm always too late to see the hi-viz evidence of our God at work. No these are things I may never get to see or participate in no matter how much I'd like to. I guess I'll have to muddle on in faith alone. All my miracles are the small ones that can't really be proven as the power of my God but that are more readily attributed to science and nature or maybe just pure unalderated luck. Perhaps if I did see such wonders, like the children of Israel I would turn my back in disbelief and walk away. No, give me my ignorance and blind faith. By the way, I know I ask a lot of questions (most which pass without remark) but please tell me this, is it right to pray (or effective to pray) for God to remove someone's free will (e.g. ... Please, Lord, cause [him] to turn to you.). I hear these type of prayers so often from Christians who obviously don't understand what they're asking.
--Crannog
5.November 16,2009, 5:43PM
Conversational Atheist,

Ho ho! Don't think I didn't see that one coming. Where to begin? How about this. As C.S. Lewis observed in "Miracles" it is very naive to assume that ancient peoples were not highly skeptical of miracle claims (particularly ancient Jews). The main difference between the first century Jew and the contemporary naturalist is that the latter tends to dismiss the possibility of miracles a priori.

One more thing: the early Christians were highly educated Jews who viewed Jesus as their rabbi and the first demand upon a rabbi's disciple was to pass on faithfully the teacher's instruction and life. See I Cor. 15 for a great example were Paul says what he received he passed on as of first importance. There was a strong impulse in Judaic tradition against the development of legend.
--RD Rauser
6.November 16,2009, 3:54PM
So many things to say...

Yes, it's almost unbelievable how... credulous many believers can be, even in this modern age with high literacy, scientific knowledge, the internet which can allow for quick fact checks.

And it seems obvious that the people who start the story of the missionary, or the story of the professor without a brain, or loads of other ones, are not actively trying to do something harmful. They surely have good intentions.

Which suggests to me that a society with under 20% literacy rate, very little scientific knowledge, no internet to check any facts, may tell stories about a man being born of a virgin and that perhaps, we should skeptical of such stories.
--ConverseAtheist
7.November 16,2009, 2:53AM
I opened a sermon with a bunch of urban legends - mostly gathered from e-mails I had received from congregation members. The point was - what exactly is it that you believe. And the next week - received the same e-mails and prayer requests. I think Pastors need to be really familiar with snopes.com (just my opinion), but people seem addicted to the feel good story (it doesn't seem to matter if it is true.)

And if you don;t forward this comment to at least ten people in the next ten minutes - wll I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.
--GarryM
8.November 15,2009, 8:51PM
WELL STATED.
--Rhi Bran
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