Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:13 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 0

I'm sorry if that post came off as rude or derrogatory in any way, I didn't mean for it to at all.

I am openminded about this most of the time, I really try to be. I always try to focus on the fact that we all share a love for Christ. Its really hard to stay open minded though when Christians bash other Christians for their religious traditions, beliefs, or even the foundation the church was made on. We are all children of God. If you have a problem with a belief in the Catholic faith, ask a Catholic to explain it or look it up because maybe you just don't understand it. The same goes with ANY other faith... Understanding one anothers faiths will help us to stay openminded and possibly understand why they have certain views on things. I'm not saying that by understanding it you will agree with it, you will only understand their point of view. Don't assume anything about another faith because that makes a you know what out of U and ME (pardon the pun)

The point is... WE ALL SHARE A LOVE FOR CHRIST. This is the ONLY thing that matters, and what should be bringing us together. Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, Menonites, whatever... the Title DOESN"T matter. Our shared love for Christ does.

Don't put other faiths down. Don't point out what you believe to be their "faults" Its not your place to do that, and it's hypocritical to try and justify doing so. Like I said before, ITS GOD'S PLACE TO TELL US WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. He put us on the earth to love one another, not to put each other down in anyway. True Christians WILL focus on our shared love for Christ, and WILL NOT focus on our differences.

Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:40 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

Matthew goes on....

Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

The rest of that verse is what is regarded as the "Scripture mandate" of the papal suprimacy.

That may or may not be how you interpret it. No one says you HAVE to think of it that way. I don't really understand the point of your post other than you again point out what you think is wrong with the Catholic church.

That is your opinion and whether you share it with 2 or 2 hundred people makes no difference. I really think that God would rather you be studying His scripture and focusing on your relationship with him rather than piddling with what you agree and don't agree with the Catholic faith. Like I said before. Isn't YOUR OWN PERSONAL FAITH what REALLY matters??????

Reformed Church Head Rebuts Vatican's 'One True Church' Claim

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:47 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior;
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant,
from now on will all ages call me blessed." (Lk. 1:16-18)

---or simply visit here--
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blessed_virgin_mary.html

Catholics honor Mary because she was the virgin mother of Jesus. They do not idolize her or worship her; that alone goes to Christ. (Read the Catechism, idolatry of Mary or the Saints is punishable by excommunication, and also the original language for the Church was Latin, LATRIA is worship that ALONE goes to God, DULIA is honor directed toward the saints and Mary) Catholics pray to Mary because she intercedes prayers. --My example for this---- you are a child and want your dad to help or do something for you so while you also ask him straight up you get your mother to help you explain and "convince" him of your requests. This is a very strong belief among Catholics, you can pray directly to God if you want, but having Mary and the Saints is like having people who really understand how hard life is (who've suffered the particular problems a person is having), pass up your prayers to God. If this does not explain clear enough you can look it up in the Catechism or in other articles on the Catholic view of Mary (I'd advise you to read ones written by a Catholic)

----In a Catholic Mass, the priest says, "ALL glory and honor is YOURS all-mighty Father, forever, and ever" and the congregation responds "Amen" meaning "so be it".

The Pope's statement was NOT meant to denigrate other churches. That statement has been around for ages, but because it is again brought up in the present time, people are throwing a fit. (Vatican II also states, similarly, that the Catholic Church is the one and only true church founded by Jesus Christ) There are over 33,640 churches that have different beliefs......, yet ALL of those churches have beliefs based from Catholic teachings. Of course, some have more than others. Yet look it up, the Catholic Church was the first Christian religion. It's in the history books. Each year 7th graders around the country learn about it. You can't change history.

No, I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you of anything. I am Catholic, you are not, I respect and acknowledge your religious beliefs without spewed hatred and expect the same. I'm simply stating my own views. You have yours, I have mine. I respect yours, so do the same to me and all Catholics. True Christians DO NOT sit and contemplate what is wrong about every other religion or denomination, but focus on their OWN faith, because that’s what really matters. I am appalled to see some people sit here and judge Catholics (I would be appalled if it were any other faith also) without studying Catechism, history, or any other religion for that matter. Those of you that have studied what I’ve mentioned and more, why are you judging? You obviously have strong Christian beliefs and doesn’t God tell us NOT to judge anyways?

Judgment is NOT your place, it ALONE is GOD'S. So instead of quoting scripture to try denounce anyone and everyone you can, focus on your OWN faith. When that is PERFECT (which it will never be, because only GOD is perfect) then you can judge anyone you want.

Everyone is entitled to believe what they wish; GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL IN THE END TELL US WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. Catholics believe what they wish, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, etc, do the same. So I challenge you all. Instead of focusing on what YOU believe to be wrong about the Catholic Church (OR any OTHER church for that matter), focus on your own faith, because in the end, isn't that what really matters anyways??

Also, Mat 7:1 Judge not lest you be judged. Ya, thats from the Bible. Obviously those posting have read it... so how 'bout we listen....

Protestant Heads Still Committed to Dialogue Despite Vatican's 'One True Church' Claim

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Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:12 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

I posted this on another article too, but just in case you don't read that, you can read it here.


Everyone is entitled to believe what they wish; God is the only one who will in the end tell us what is right or wrong. Catholics believe what they wish, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, etc, do the same. So I challenge you all. Instead of focusing on what YOU believe to be wrong about the Catholic Church (OR any OTHER church for that matter), focus on your own faith, because in the end, isn't that what really matters anyways??

Also, Mat 7:1 Judge not lest you be judged. Ya, thats from the Bible. Obviously those posting have read it... so how 'bout we listen....

Catholic Pride in 'One True Church' Makes Enemies, Says Coptic Pope

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Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:35 am Agree: 13   Disagree: 5

Show me in Scripture where faith in Mary is equal to faith in Christ.
Show me, in legitimate Catholic text, where faith in Mary is equal to faith in Christ. Catholics honor Mary because she was the virgin mother of Jesus. They do not idolize her or worship her; that alone goes to Christ. Catholics pray to Mary because she intercedes our prayers for us. --My example for this---- you are a child and want your dad to help or do something for you so while you also ask him straight up you get your mother to help you explain and "convince" him of your requests. This is a very strong belief among Catholics, you can pray directly to God if you want, but having Mary and the Saints is like having people who really understand how hard life is (who've suffered the particular problems a person is having), pass up your prayers to God. If this does not explain clear enough you can look it up in the Catechism or in other articles on the Catholic view of Mary (I'd advise you to read ones written by a Catholic)

----In a Catholic Mass, the priest says, "ALL glory and honor is YOURS all-mighty Father, forever, and ever" and the congregation responds "Amen" meaning "so be it".

JDNWF66 states everything very well. The Pope's statement was NOT meant to denigrate other churches. That statement has been around for ages, but because it is again brought up in the present time, people are throwing a fit. (Vatican II also states, similarly, that the Catholic Church is the one and only true church founded by Jesus Christ) Just as JDNW66 states there are over 33,640 churches that have different beliefs......, yet ALL of those churches have beliefs based from Catholic teachings. Of course, some have more than others. Yet look it up, the Catholic Church was first. It's in the history books. Each year 7th graders around the country learn about it. You can't change history.

Everyone is entitled to believe what they wish; God is the only one who will in the end tell us what is right or wrong. Catholics believe what they wish, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, etc, do the same. So I challenge you all. Instead of focusing on what YOU believe to be wrong about the Catholic Church (OR any OTHER church for that matter), focus on your own faith, because in the end, isn't that what really matters anyways??

Also, Mat 7:1 Judge not lest you be judged. Ya, thats from the Bible. Obviously those posting have read it... so how 'bout we listen....