“We really need to ask ourselves the question: are we now in the position of giving a judge the decision to decide whether or not the American people are rational when they go to the voting booth and make their wishes known,” Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) commented. I guess she really means "are we now in the position of giving a judge the AUTHORITY to decide"..... Either way tha...more

“We really need to ask ourselves the question: are we now in the position of giving a judge the decision to decide whether or not the American people are rational when they go to the voting booth and make their wishes known,” Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) commented.

I guess she really means "are we now in the position of giving a judge the AUTHORITY to decide"..... Either way that's the purpose of having an independent judicial branch. Trained judges understand constitutional law and how it is supposed to work, that is something the average voter does not understand or even care about. It represents our best chance of protecting the rights of everyone.less

What? Where is Dad??

tempest - I give up,Too much hate and bigotry being posted here...there is no help for you people.... ..... I'll agree with you on that. What little intelligent conversation that is left on CP isn't worth sorting through all the hate and spam.

Start learning from history adam and repent before the "gnashing of teeth" begins. … Well you've gone from an 8-Track to a broken record... Whatever you call it, we've heard it all before… "Repent" and be like you? Dude, You drive more people away from Christianity than you attract with your tactics.

The politically correct winds whisk through t….…It’s time to change that 8-Track.. True science and medical groups such as the APA and AMA routinely update their positions on issues as new evidence emerges, gets tested and is confirmed. By comparison the typical religious group’s beliefs haven’t changed in thousands and thousands of years. Their intentions are to maintain tho...more

The politically correct winds whisk through t….…It’s time to change that 8-Track..

True science and medical groups such as the APA and AMA routinely update their positions on issues as new evidence emerges, gets tested and is confirmed. By comparison the typical religious group’s beliefs haven’t changed in thousands and thousands of years. Their intentions are to maintain those beliefs and convert everyone else to follow their belief system by using any method necessary. That's why religion will never again be accepted as science.

You can try to dance around the APA all day long, but we all know the APA is the recognized and accepted authority on psychological matters. Whereas your belief system is more outdated than your 8-Tracks….less

bel - If these people you keep referring to are primarily homosexual, the only thing they are experiencing is consistent self-deception and deception of those people around them. At the end of the day, they are still going to be primarily homosexuals. If they are primarily bisexual then all they have done is chosen to focus on the heterosexual side of their orientation (noticed I didn't say "F...more

bel - If these people you keep referring to are primarily homosexual, the only thing they are experiencing is consistent self-deception and deception of those people around them. At the end of the day, they are still going to be primarily homosexuals.

If they are primarily bisexual then all they have done is chosen to focus on the heterosexual side of their orientation (noticed I didn't say "Focus" here). At the end of the day, they are still going to be bisexual. Even if your sexual orientation is bisexual, you still don't choose to have a bisexual orientation.less

bel - the only problem is that all the reputable translations all agree that God condemns the sexual practices of homosexuality ..... I would expect Bibles that were translated and interpreted by mainly heterosexual men to say that. bel - "God's original and only design for marriage " You have yet to show where in any of the Bibles where God declared one man and one woman to be ...more

bel - the only problem is that all the reputable translations all agree that God condemns the sexual practices of homosexuality .....

I would expect Bibles that were translated and interpreted by mainly heterosexual men to say that.


bel - "God's original and only design for marriage "

You have yet to show where in any of the Bibles where God declared one man and one woman to be the only design for marriage. I know you want to believe that "original and only design" line, but that claim is not supported.

And marriage, however you choose to define it, has nothing to do with the brain change/cure issue which apparently was the real question of this story regardless of what the title says.less

Patricia must still be writing his comedy sketch for the NZ quake.... It may be a while before he gets around to Japan....

When the APA, the recognized and accepted professional medical authority on psychological matters, says it is possible to brain change someone and effectively change their sexual orientation, and it’s possible to replicate that procedure safely with at least a 50% cure rate, you might have an argument….. And it’s got to be performed by licensed mental health professionals, not by some unli...more

When the APA, the recognized and accepted professional medical authority on psychological matters, says it is possible to brain change someone and effectively change their sexual orientation, and it’s possible to replicate that procedure safely with at least a 50% cure rate, you might have an argument….. And it’s got to be performed by licensed mental health professionals, not by some unlicensed, untrained “counselors” who are just taking a break from their coffee break…..

Until then all the talk about “reparative therapy” stuff is just total non-sense.less

I agree, the Exodus app should be removed. The story could have at least named the website so everyone can go sign the petition.....

CachoM - To get the best and real truth of the Bible, read the King James Version...there is no compromising on that one and changing of words and meanings at all....you get it straight as it is...... Finally someone admits there are differences in the translations and interpretations of the Bibles.... But then .. the KJV isn't THE original version either.........

It’s really sad that 13 people (at this point) are arrogant enough to think they can disagree with this man’s story. You haven’t lived his life; you don’t know what he’s gone through … You can’t disagree with his story! And yes, I said it was ‘really sad that 13 people are arrogant enough’, I didn’t say it was unbelievable …

Prop - Someone flagged Daniel's post for no reason, so here it is...Murder is simply a natural, normal variation on social behavior..... if you live in Uganda...

On March 3, Mark Smith gave a lecture at the Family Research Council’s headquarters in Washington, D.C., outlining the beliefs and tendencies of the evangelical left. Smith, the director of Cedarville University’s Center for Political Studies, researched the political left for his upcoming book, Meandering to Zion, co-authored with Marc Clauson and Tom Mach... Family Research Coun...more

On March 3, Mark Smith gave a lecture at the Family Research Council’s headquarters in Washington, D.C., outlining the beliefs and tendencies of the evangelical left. Smith, the director of Cedarville University’s Center for Political Studies, researched the political left for his upcoming book, Meandering to Zion, co-authored with Marc Clauson and Tom Mach...

Family Research Council?.... ( http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=DC ) Oh, THAT “Family” Research Council… Mr. Smith when you go to Washington be careful who you hang around with, it might call into question the rest of your message.less

Chucky: 1) GET OVER your obsession with Apple and your “sacred” Manhattan project; Apple isn’t buying it. Stop deceiving people about it; there’s nothing unconstitutional about Apple’s refusal to endorse your way of thinking. It’s a business decision made by a private company, not a constitutional issue of free speech. 2) Snyder v Phelps also proves one other thing: All that...more

Chucky:

1) GET OVER your obsession with Apple and your “sacred” Manhattan project; Apple isn’t buying it. Stop deceiving people about it; there’s nothing unconstitutional about Apple’s refusal to endorse your way of thinking. It’s a business decision made by a private company, not a constitutional issue of free speech.

2) Snyder v Phelps also proves one other thing: All that whining, crying, fearing and forecasting the "end of religious liberties" we constantly heard about from professional religious people when the Hate Crimes Law was being debated and signed in 2009, was all about nothing. If the Court protected WBC’s speech, and they did, other Christians surely don’t have anything to worry about…. unless you plan to try to outdo WBC…

3) You say you believe that the institution of marriage as we know it is teetering on the verge of destruction. Do you really? Then push for laws banning heterosexual divorces.less

gospelophilus - Most of the mainline churches and associations have been hijacked by the Gay lobby and are forced to adopt the 'abomination' as the mainstream way of life, at 'gunpoint'. …… BARTENDER!.. I’ll have whatever he’s having… Make mine a double!…

phoenix - Would you be so happy to marry YOUR daughter off to a gay guy?.... PS, would you be happy marrying YOUR daughter off to a gay guy?..... ….. phoenix, You will never get people to answer those questions. I have asked people those questions, point blank, face-to-face several times. I always got the same results you got here; they always answered a question that I didn’t...more

phoenix - Would you be so happy to marry YOUR daughter off to a gay guy?....
PS, would you be happy marrying YOUR daughter off to a gay guy?..... …..

phoenix, You will never get people to answer those questions. I have asked people those questions, point blank, face-to-face several times. I always got the same results you got here; they always answered a question that I didn’t ask.less

Nothing? Don't you have to hire more wedding planners??

Matt - What you appear to be saying is a person can be a Christian if they are "ex-Gay". That's not the question you initially asked, or the story title asks.

NewCreationyeah - What you're saying is that we're just a bunch of lying hypocrites Are you asking if I think the abstinence only crowd are hypocrites? I think a better term for the parents might be delusional. They either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge the world their children are living in. If you are thinking about the way a lot of people look at sex education in publ...more

NewCreationyeah - What you're saying is that we're just a bunch of lying hypocrites

Are you asking if I think the abstinence only crowd are hypocrites? I think a better term for the parents might be delusional. They either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge the world their children are living in.

If you are thinking about the way a lot of people look at sex education in public school systems when they are talking about other people's children.... Yeah, hypocrite might be a good term.less