PCUSA Marks 500th Calvin Anniversary with Release of Documentary

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Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Salvation is the most basic, fundamental principle of Christianity and yet the professional preachers cannot agree on the requirements for salvation. If there was a single concept to cover their teaching it might read:

"You must be water baptized, but it's really just an OUTWARD sign of an INWARD change. If you INVITE Jesus into your heart, you must also MAKE Him Lord of your life, but that's only if He has PREDESTINED to accept you. If you speak in unknown TONGUES, that means you were filled with the Holy Spirit and you were SEALED until the day of redemption, however if you do BACKSLIDE and LOSE YOUR SALVATION, you can NEVER be saved again and it will be worse for you than if you had never been saved."

There are perhaps as many recipes for salvation as there are churches and ministers. It is so overwhelming to a lost man seeking hope for his soul that he will ultimately fail without a display of incredible perseverance. To try to simplify it somewhat, we should break down the various Christian churches’ doctrine into groups:

A. Man is saved by faith.
B. Man is saved by faith plus works.
C. Select men are saved by God according to His divine pleasure.

When you die, you're going to be dead for a LONG time. It would behoove each of us to ignore those who have substited the Word of God for a perverted commercial enterprise and discover for ourselves what God says of salvation.

Here is the biblical salvation message in a nutshell:

Belief in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as sufficient restitution for sin, providing Jesus’ justification and righteousness to man.

You’ll probably say, “I’ve heard that.” Probably you have within the context of a larger, perverted doctrine. Consider the doctrine that many of us have heard from radio teacher and preacher, J. Vernon McGee in his “Through the Bible” series:

A. Man is saved by faith alone and sealed until the day of redemption without the possibility of losing salvation.
B. Christian performance and holy living are indicative of salvation.
C. Without an adequate demonstration of B, then A is negated. The man was never saved.

With McGee’s doctrine a man must perform well, (not to keep from losing his salvation) but to keep from disqualifying it altogether. Most preachers will start with a biblical truth and then condemn that truth in their next breath. By and large, their basic doctrine is that “Good People Go to Heaven / Bad People Go to Hell.” The bible tells us there are NO good people.

In truth, the only people you’ll find in Heaven are BAD people, saved by the grace, righteousness and justification of the Righteous One, in whom they placed their trust.

Monsters of Our Own Making

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Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

“Refusing to compete in the Olympic 100-meter event because it was scheduled on a Sunday…”

So Eric refused to run on Sunday. I know people who won’t eat shellfish. Is that an admirable thing? Well, it does show a commitment to their religion, whether the religion is valid in the eyes of God or not.

Saturday was the Sabbath. Constantine abolished the keeping of the Sabbath when he created his new state-affiliated religion and introduced Sunday to be the day the Christian army would worship.

The followers of the goddess / son relationship Isis (Seramiah & Nimrod) resisted the new religion, so Constantine emphasized that Jesus also had a mother and those who wished to embellish her could do so within the constraints of the Christian religion and thereby be spared the sword. Religion is man’s attempt to create righteousness in an effort to please God.

God is not impressed with man’s righteousness. Man must accept Christ’s righteousness and recognize that his efforts to create his own amount to dirty rags (menstrual cloths).

Sunday is no more sacred than Tuesday or Saturday in the eyes of God in this present age. All seven days are as holy as we pray without ceasing.

So Eric upheld a religious tradition. Fine. He gets an A+ in “Churchianity.” So now we can either cheer for the traditions of men or we can acknowledge the sovereignty of God.

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Baptists Poised to Hurdle Divisions with New Covenant

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Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:00 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

Some 20,000 Baptists are expected to join a historic effort, called the New Baptist Covenant, aimed at dispelling an image of division among Baptist groups and in hopes of emerging with a new Baptist voice. The meeting is scheduled for Jan. 30-Feb. 1 in Atlanta.

Southern Baptist Convention president Frank Page said he would not take part in a "smokescreen leftwing liberal agenda" and others have alleged there are political overtones, considering the line-up of speakers and the timing of the event - which takes place during the U.S. presidential election year.

Mike Huckabee withdrew his participation from the convocation in May and commented last week that being president would be "a heck of a lot easier job than getting all the Baptists to agree on everything."

The Baptist groups supporting the New Baptist Covenant include the American Baptist Churches and the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. Several historically African-American Baptist denominations, including the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc., have also joined the effort.

Baptists need to look at the reason WHY they are divided. They can’t agree on SALVATION; the most basic aspect of Christianity.

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Catholic Concerns

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Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:00 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

If they had assumed responsibility for policing the felonies of their priests themselves, they could have avoided relying upon the courts to do it for them. The cost of litigation has escalated because of their lack of integrity in bringing these scoundrels to justice.

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Southern Baptists Debate Calvinism, Urge Cooperation

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Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:58 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

“ …Baptist theologians debated on the five points, including unconditional election – that God chooses every person who will be saved, not based on an individual's merit or on his looking forward to discover who would accept the offer of the gospel but solely upon the counsel of His own will – and limited atonement – that Christ died for the elect and not all.

It is obvious that Baptists cannot determine the most basic principle of Christianity; SALVATION. They need to abolish their home missions and foreign missions programs until they decide what they’re going to tell the heathens about God’s requirements for receiving eternal life.

Denominations are counterfeit religions, being marketed by profiteering evangelists at the expense of the people who have placed their trust in them. Narrow is the way and FEW are those who will find it. Don't be SURPRISED that FEW will find it.

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The Catalytic Cross

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Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Catalytic Cross? How about the Catholic Cross? Or the Mormon Cross? Maybe the Baptist Cross?

Before you call everyone who has a “Jesus” tee shirt a “brother” or “sister” you should do a little bit of study. Why does the Catholic cross still have Jesus up there bleeding and the Protestant cross is empty? Why is there a “confession booth” in one and not the other?

The fact is that there are actually VERY FEW brothers and sisters in Christ. Narrow is the way and few are those who will find it. Don’t believe for a minute that “Wide is the way and MANY are those who HAVE found it.” How many were saved from Noah’s flood? The ‘Remnant?’ The ‘Little Flock?’ If you’re among thousands of others, you’re most likely in the wrong crowd.

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Religion as Poison?

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Constantine saw the power of the Christian movement and decided that since it couldn’t be destroyed, he would harness its power under his government for conquest. He required every soldier and every civilian be Christian. The existing local religion of Isis (Seramiah & Nimrod … mother & son) was predominately popular so Constantine made the transition easier by noting that Jesus had a mother and He was the son. So the old religion was transposed into the new Christian religion and it became a sort of hybrid of old and new.

Just as Constantine’s form of Christianity was a conglomeration of misinformation, so are all the Protestant denominations. We have to ignore the “Early Church Fathers” (who already practiced a religion of heresy) and go all the way back to the Bible itself to find unadulterated Christianity. People had fallen away from ‘the faith’ even before the death of Paul.

15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me;

The whole names were left off the list for clarity. Here it is with the full name of each. These are just some of the Baptist denominations. This is NOT a good thing! These are not likeminded groups of Christ. If you consider how each group is relying on their doctrine to find salvation, you will see that they are completely incompatible. If one is true, then the opposing groups remain dead in their sins by their own definition. In spite of this, the leaders of each group calls them all “brothers and sisters” in Christ, rather than denounce the heresy that they perceive is being taught in the name of Jesus. Any time you change SALVATION, you no longer have truth and you are condemned, according to the KJV.

Paul wrote that if any man teach any other gospel than what he preached, “let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8,9).

Note: These are only some of the Baptist denominations. We have not even addressed the other heretical religions.

Alliance Baptist
American Baptist
Central Baptist
Continental Baptist
Evangelical Baptist
Fellowship Baptist
Free Will Baptist
Full Gospel Baptist
Fundamental Free Baptist
General Baptist
General Six-Principle Baptist
Grace Baptist
Hard Shell Baptist
Holiness Baptist
Independent Baptist
Independent Fundamental Baptist
Institutional Baptist
Liberty Baptist
Longview Baptist
Missionary Baptist
New Testament Baptist
North American Baptist
Northern Baptist
Old Regular Baptist
Old Time Missionary Baptist
Original Free Will Baptist
Pentecostal Baptist
Primitive Baptist
Reformed Baptist
Resurgence Baptist
Right Hand Baptist
Separate Baptist
Seventh Day Baptist
Sovereign Baptist
Sovereign Grace Baptist
Union Baptist
United Baptist

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Religion as Poison?

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

Christians are unanimously hated by the Islamic nations primarily because of the massacre of men, women and children during the Christian Crusades by the Catholic Church. Like it or not, they started a religious war that will not end until Christ returns.

So who are today’s Christians who represent that heritage? The Catholics only? Or perhaps we could include the Protestants as well, with al of their individual denominations? Just who IS ‘the Church’ that has responsibility for these ancient atrocities?

Today there isn’t just THE church. Here are more than 35 Baptist ‘churches’ alone (not considering other ‘churches’ of the Episcopalians, Lutherans, Nazarenes, Mormons, Pentecostals, etc., etc., ad infinitum):

Alliance
American
Central
Continental
Evangelical
Fellowship
Free Will
Full Gospel
Fundamental Free
General
General Six-Principle
Grace
Hard Shell
Holiness
Independent
Independent Fundamental
Institutional
Liberty
Longview
Missionary
New Testament
North American
Northern
Old Regular
Old Time Missionary
Original Free Will
Pentecostal
Primitive
Reformed
Resurgence
Right Hand
Separate
Seventh Day
Sovereign
Sovereign Grace
Union
United

People are very offended when I agree with God that there is ONE faith, not many:

EPH 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; EPH 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

So who exactly, are all these others? They are the counterfeits of the Body of Christ. They have varying, opposed requirements for salvation. When ‘the church’ is discussed, people are predominately discussing these counterfeit, renegade groups. There are very few members of the Body of Christ, just as there were very few members of the ‘Little Flock’, the few who were spared from Noah’s Flood and the small ‘remnant’ that was spared of Israel. The path is narrow and FEW will find it. Large numbers and majorities do not coincide with truth. In today’s world, ‘the church’ does not represent Christ or His body.

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Who Will Decide How You Vote?

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:18 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Ever since Eisenhower, I have heard the same comment made every 4 years; “Do you mean out of all the people in the United States, these are the best two candidates we could find for president?” Certainly with 2 terms of Bushes and 2 terms of Clintons and now probably back to another term of Clintons, I can see the logic.

In 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply can not exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith; 2. from spiritual faith to great courage; 3. from courage to liberty; 4. from liberty to abundance; 5. from abundance to complacency ; 6. from complacency to apathy; 7. from apathy to dependence; 8. From dependence back into bondage"

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New Initiative Corrects Inaccurate 'Christian' Label

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Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

So tell us, Hiding; What do you base your salvation upon? Can you lose it? Can you be re-saved if you do? Or did God merely CHOOSE to love and save you and hate and DAMN others?

Perhaps you were granted salvation by a priest? Does it matter? Apparently not to you and many others, but I assure you it matters a great deal to God. The Word of God tells us the preachers of false doctrine are accursed. (Going to the BAD PLACE)

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Should we question (judge) the teachers of false doctrine? He who refuses to discern good from evil is already in dire straits.

Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

There are actually very few brothers and sisters in Christ. The way is narrow and few are those who will find it. Don’t be surprised that few will find it.

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Global Forum Hailed as 'Unprecedented' Step Toward Christian Unity

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Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:28 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

Apparently the combined effort of the false doctrine churches have compromised to adopt a new standard for receiving eternal life:

"You must be water baptized, but it's really just an OUTWARD sign of an INWARD change. If you invite Jesus into your heart, you must also make him Lord of your life, but that's only if He has predestined to accept you. If you speak in unknown tongues, that means you were filled with the Holy Spirit and you were sealed until the day of redemption, however if you do backslide and lose your salvation, you can never be saved again and it will be worse for you than if you had never been saved."

Oops, we left out the Catholic requirement: “You can only receive salvation by the church having direct Apostolic Lineage back to the original apostles.”

But then there’s the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints: “Since the Apostolic Lineage was broken in the original church, salvation was restored to Earth by a new prophet, Joseph Smith.”

Oh well, no matter really, since they are ALL Christian brothers and sisters.

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ

“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

“Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works” (II Corinthians 11:13-15).

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New Initiative Corrects Inaccurate 'Christian' Label

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Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I challenge you to take your own survey in your own hometown. As you visit the many churches from Baptist to Catholic and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, you will discover that just about all preachers today teach contrary to the Word of God. Ask those professional ‘Men of Gawd’ what is required to enter into eternal life. Here is a sampling of the expert teaching you will encounter:

You can lose your salvation.

You can’t lose your salvation.

You are sealed until the day of redemption, provided your works indicate you were saved in the first place.

If you lose your salvation, you can repent and be saved a second time.

If you lose your salvation, you can never be saved again.

You must speak in tongues, indicating that you have the indwelling Holy Spirit.

God decides who is redeemed and who is damned by His divine pleasure.

You have to be repent and be water baptized to be saved.

You don’t have to be water baptized as it is an outward sign of an inward change.

You can only be saved through the church that has direct lineage to the original apostles.

The lineage of the original church was broken; you have to be saved through the lineage of the modern prophet, Joseph Smith.

These preachers don’t seem to care a whit about God’s truth. They teach heresy with much pride and arrogance, wearing purple robes and collecting money in the name of Jesus. They won’t take a stand for THE FAITH and have substituted all variations of man’s religion in its place.

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Set Your Foot

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Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

It is written:

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works" (II Corinthians 11:13-15).

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Set Your Foot

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Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

Just about all preachers today teach contrary to the Word of God. Take a tour of the churches around any community and ask those professional ‘Men of Gawd’ what is required to enter into eternal life. Here is a sampling of the expert teaching you will discover:

You can lose your salvation.

You can’t lose your salvation.

You are sealed until the day of redemption, provided your works indicate you were saved in the first place.

If you lose your salvation, you can repent and be saved a second time.

If you lose your salvation, you can never be saved again.

You must speak in tongues, indicating that you have the indwelling Holy Spirit.

God decides who is redeemed and who is damned by His divine pleasure.

You have to be repent and be water baptized to be saved.

You don’t have to be water baptized as it is an outward sign of an inward change.

You can only be saved through the church that has direct lineage to the original apostles.

The lineage of the original church was broken; you have to be saved through the lineage of the modern prophet, Joseph Smith.

These preachers don’t seem to care a whit about God’s truth. They teach heresy with much pride and arrogance, wearing purple robes and collecting money in the name of Jesus. They won’t take a stand for THE FAITH and have substituted all variations of man’s religion in its place.

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Top 12 Mistakes Mission Agencies Should Avoid

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Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

“World renowned missiologist Dr. Ralph D. Winter shared 12 past mistakes made by Western mission agencies that Asian missiologists should avoid…”

Only twelve? Then I submit that there are at least thirteen. The thirteenth mistake is to send missionaries into the field who teach contrary to the Word of God.

You can lose your salvation.

You can’t lose your salvation.

You are sealed until the day of redemption, provided your works indicate you were saved in the first place.

If you lose your salvation, you can repent and be saved a second time.

If you lose your salvation, you can never be saved again.

You must speak in tongues, indicating that you have the indwelling Holy Spirit.

God decides who is redeemed and who is damned by His divine pleasure.

You have to be repent and be water baptized to be saved.

You don’t have to be water baptized as it is an outward sign of an inward change.

You can only be saved through the church that has direct lineage to the original apostles.

The lineage of the original church was broken; you have to be saved through the lineage of the modern prophet, Joseph Smith.

This is just a sample of the teachings of the “Western Missionaries of the Christian Religion!” Apparently the “MISSIOLOGISTS” don’t think this is of any concern to God. The fact is, missiologists and their missionaries are of their father, the devil. They won’t take as stand for THE FAITH and have substituted man’s religion in its place.

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Southern Baptists Step Up Christian Defense with Apologetics

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Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 12

“The CAI credential indicates that the recipient has a good knowledge of issues related to apologetics & interfaith evangelism,…”

Dr. Mark A. Rathel will need all the knowledge of issues he can muster since the more than 52 factions of Baptists alone are divided on mostly basic salvation issues.

He will have to combine all of the various salvation beliefs into a single requirement for the interfaith evangelists to use in the field:

TO RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE, you must be water baptized, but it's really just an OUTWARD sign of an INWARD change. If you invite Jesus into your heart, you must also make him Lord of your life, but that's only if He has predestined to accept you. If you speak in unknown tongues, that means you were filled with the Holy Spirit and you were sealed until the day of redemption, however if you do backslide and lose your salvation, you can never be saved again and it will be worse for you than if you had never been saved."

How can a group of people who have never been able to determine the criteria for SALVATION hope to help save ANYONE ELSE?
16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
The myriad of ‘Christian’ churches have become so doctrinally corrupted that few of their preachers can tell a person what God’s requirements are for receiving eternal life. They are not saved and cannot understand the scriptures that they are attempting to teach to others.

Confused? Yes, they surely are. And they persist in spreading their confusion by professing; “I’m a man of Gawd.”

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Would Jesus 'Stone' a Homosexual?

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Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

IGIT said, “Jesus did not speak of others in this way. Responses such as yours is one reason why believers are looked at negatively.”

Better take another look. Jesus turned over the tables of the moneychangers and called the high priests Whitewashed coffins full of dead men’s bones.

Jesus told the church elders that they were as rebellious and as murderous as their ancestors who killed all of His prophets.

Jesus took a stand against evil. Jesus WAS LOOKED AT in a NEGATIVE way (an understatement) to the extent that the holy men had him killed.

Believers today are much nicer than Jesus. They won’t offend the heretic preachers or the abominators. I’m sure Jesus would be very proud of today’s ‘believers’ since they wouldn’t speak out to offend the Devil, himself.

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Can't Buy Me Love

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Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

" ...maybe he was on this web-site for curiosity value... "

Yes, of course. I'm sure that's it. There could be no other plausible explanation.

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Can't Buy Me Love

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Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

My question would be; Why is Chuck Colson searching for young women on a dating service?

Given the reputation of a great many preachers though, I suppose it's not unusual. "Love for Rent" has been a common preacher pastime for a lot of years. "Good evening dear, I'm a man of Gawd."

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Churches Hope for Gospelization of Korea

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Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:28 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 5

Lee reportedly said, "Faction-torn churches set aside their differences to work together to reach their nation..."

I'd like to hear what they tell the Korean heathens to receive eternal life. "You must be water baptized, but it's really just an OUTWARD sign of an INWARD change. If you invite Jesus into your heart, you must also make him Lord of your life, but that's only if He has predestined to accept you. If you speak in unknown tongues, that means you were filled with the Holy Spirit and you were sealed until the day of redemption, however if you do backslide and lose your salvation, you can never be saved again and it will be worse for you than if you had never been saved."

How can a group of people who have never been able to determine the criteria for SALVATION hope to help save ANYONE? The very best they could do in Korea is to spread their own confusion among another nation of people. May God strike them down in their rebellion and their ignorance of His Word! (And this is the church that is to represent God and bring Christianity to others!)

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