believer, I'll agree with you on that one.

Beautiful.

Okay, since I missed the Civil War talk AGAIN! I'm just gonna throw in my two cents worth. The Civil War was a war about State Rights. The right the states were talking about was slavery. It was a war about economics. Our economy was slave based. It was a religious war: the South fighting for their God given homeland and the North fighting for blacks God given right to be free. To say that s...more

Okay, since I missed the Civil War talk AGAIN! I'm just gonna throw in my two cents worth.

The Civil War was a war about State Rights. The right the states were talking about was slavery. It was a war about economics. Our economy was slave based. It was a religious war: the South fighting for their God given homeland and the North fighting for blacks God given right to be free.

To say that slavery is only a part of what the Civil War was about is like saying my body is only partly made of bones. It's true, but those bones support the entire structure of the War.

Southerner's (myself included) love to idealize the Lost Cause and Old South mentality. But that culture was maintained by one of the worst and most horrific examples of slavery ever. Most of the men who fought had no slaves. They were poor white farmers, but their love of their state and their fear of free blacks led them to the gun..when the North fired the first shot ;)

I love the South. I think it's the greatest place in the world, but we were on the wrong side of a moral war.less

ARGH! I missed a Civil War talk! I live in south Alabama and I'm GOOD at those! LOL

It amazes me that people are talking about how Obama's empty campaign promises when he hasn't even been in office a full year. Do you people think that the man can get us out of two wars, fix the worst economic crisis since the Depression, and solve our health care problems in 8-1/2 months?!?! Get real people. This stuff takes time. And what is wrong with kids writing the President with sugges...more

It amazes me that people are talking about how Obama's empty campaign promises when he hasn't even been in office a full year. Do you people think that the man can get us out of two wars, fix the worst economic crisis since the Depression, and solve our health care problems in 8-1/2 months?!?! Get real people. This stuff takes time.

And what is wrong with kids writing the President with suggestions on how they can help him?! Really? What do you think they are going to say, "I can help you by not believing in God and putting up a shrine to Che in my room!" Whatever.less

I'm not exactly sure I agree with the statement "Christians have always been the biggest boosters of scientific knowledge..." Copernicus, Galileo, Bruno, Darwin, & Newton would probably agree with the fact that the Church has been pretty vile toward revoultionary scientist. I don't think the fact that these scientist are building a machine to find out how the universe was created is a bad thing....more

I'm not exactly sure I agree with the statement "Christians have always been the biggest boosters of scientific knowledge..." Copernicus, Galileo, Bruno, Darwin, & Newton would probably agree with the fact that the Church has been pretty vile toward revoultionary scientist.
I don't think the fact that these scientist are building a machine to find out how the universe was created is a bad thing. Isn't that was science is about, trying to find out how things work?! It's a shame some people take such a hard line against it.less

Looks like we've got another Fred Phelps!

Gibbons, You have a lot of hate in your heart. I'm gonna pray for you brother.

Christianity is woven into our history. It has been an important part of our culture as a nation. Fact is, we have been teaching about Christianity in our classrooms for years. I remember learning about the Great Awakening, the founding of Mormanism, our Founding Father's faith, and many other religious events. It gets tricky when talking about actually "teaching the Bible." First we have to find ...more

Christianity is woven into our history. It has been an important part of our culture as a nation. Fact is, we have been teaching about Christianity in our classrooms for years. I remember learning about the Great Awakening, the founding of Mormanism, our Founding Father's faith, and many other religious events. It gets tricky when talking about actually "teaching the Bible." First we have to find teachers who are qualified to do this. Secondly, we have to make sure these lessons are neutral and not promoting Christian teachings.
I am a Christian. I think that the gospels are 4 of the most important books ever written. I think that Christ's words within are the most important ever spoken. I would love it if every child in the world could hear them and live by their message. However, as a country we are bound by our Constitution. It's the 2nd most important document ever written. And since Christ told us to live the laws of the land as well has his, then I hold our Constitution in high regard.
However, it is important to teach the Bible because it really does found a strong basis for reading comprehension in college and high school. Teaching the Bible in/as literature is good. Teaching it as the infallible word of God is breaking the law.less

believer, I'll agree with the fact that many backsliden Christians are miserable over their state. However, my understanding of salvation leads me to this: no matter how far we far we wander from a close walk with Christ the grace provided us at that moment of belief covers all our sins, past present and future.

believer, A backsliden Christian is a Christian nonetheless.

believer, What I'm saying is that Christ doesn't require anything for salvation except belief. He doesn't WANT us to sin, I agree. But if we continue to sin, which we all will, it is not a deal breaker. You're a baptist. Once saved, always saved right?

Pat Robertson has a heart?! News!!!

Prophet, I don't remember Jesus putting any sort of those stipulations on salvation. Please, tell me when Jesus said, "For me to forgive you of your sins and live with me, first you have to stop sinning and be just like I am."

Well rachel, I think it's a good thing to be a little firm with the status quo sometimes. As for the "S" word, sometimes you gotta call it like you see it.

Yavoh, I find it funny that you talk about some Christians not "knowing" God, and you claim to "know" that Jesus is coming back soon! Shoot, even Christ himself didn't know that! You must really have it figured out bud.

I wouldn't say he's putting down other Christians. I'd say he's calling them out, and if you've listened to Cademons Call you've listened to Derek Webb.

ID4234, You suspect wrong then. I know TONS of people who can't wait to get this album. Webb's last few albums have been amazing both in lyrics and music. I'm kind of sad to see him drift from the folk/rock stuff to more poppy sounds, but I'm sure the lyrics will remain rock solid.

I think the using of words like "REAL Christians" is what is making many Christians want to turn away. It's the arrogance of the vernacular of people like tpique1 that make other cringe. While yes, Christ did speak very bluntly at times, he did so in humility and love. I see dangerously little of that on here.

I think the SBC's platform is just not working with today's America. While the Gospel of Christ remains the same: love your neighbor, the Golden Rule, charity, and life, the SBC has steadly turned right theologically and politically. I think this is more why they are losing members. America has changed. The shift from my generation to the one running the SBC now is dramatic. The SBC will always be...more

I think the SBC's platform is just not working with today's America. While the Gospel of Christ remains the same: love your neighbor, the Golden Rule, charity, and life, the SBC has steadly turned right theologically and politically. I think this is more why they are losing members. America has changed. The shift from my generation to the one running the SBC now is dramatic. The SBC will always be around, I promise you that, but I think it's time as at the top is coming to an end.less