The definition of marriage, by natural law has always been between one man and one woman. When a man has more than one wife it is not marriage, but a contract to produce children. The woman's reproductive rights are sold to a particular man. Polygammy is not marriage either. Natural law, which is science my friend, contends that one man and one woman who unite for life in the hopes of producing...more

The definition of marriage, by natural law has always been between one man and one woman. When a man has more than one wife it is not marriage, but a contract to produce children. The woman's reproductive rights are sold to a particular man. Polygammy is not marriage either.

Natural law, which is science my friend, contends that one man and one woman who unite for life in the hopes of producing children is Marriage. Some couples are infertile, but this does not denigrate their intent. Marriage is foundational to every civilized soceity. True Marriage equality has to do with the rights of the Man and Woman in marriage.

Gays have no right to Marriage. Marriage is not a right, but an ability. Gays have no ability, despite an unnatural intent, to have children together. Their unions are not complimentary from an atomic physical level and are an aberration. It is an anomaly. While it does happen some times in nature, nature has a natural way of dealing with it so it doesn't become the norm. They die out.less

I'm not sure how old you are Califredwood, but Catholics have always thought Protestants like the ones you mentioned before the 1970's were NOT CHRISTIANS. We thought you were all heretics who left Holy Mother Church. Why did we think you were not Christians, because the Catholic Church was the Church founded by Christ through the Apostles and your churches were all founded by men and women 15...more

I'm not sure how old you are Califredwood, but Catholics have always thought Protestants like the ones you mentioned before the 1970's were NOT CHRISTIANS. We thought you were all heretics who left Holy Mother Church.

Why did we think you were not Christians, because the Catholic Church was the Church founded by Christ through the Apostles and your churches were all founded by men and women 1500-1900 years Late. How could you be Christians, we Catholics thought, you are not in HIS church. Now, this was not an infallible opinion it was a general opinion held by the majority of Catholics pre 1970's.

Today, I now accept you as Christians(Sepparated brothers and sisters in Christ). What binds us all as Christians is far more than what sepparates us.

Lastly, while I understand your example. It is flawed. Your premise doesn't work.
Bigotry has many levels. Calling a spade a spade is not always bigotry.

It is not bigoted to not give someone a right, they have no right to. Gays do not have the right to marry because it goes against natural law and scripture. Natural law is the marriage of one man and one woman who come together in the hopes of bearing children. Whether they bear a child or not is irrelevant, but it is the fact this is what the point of marriage is about.

Gays can never marry because it is unnatural, uncomplimentary and can never be fruitful so it is always a selfish act. This will never change and while many if not most Protestants will probably accept it over time, the Catholic Church will never change her opinion on this matter.less

Yes, there is an American Catholic Church and they are called Episcopalians. Episcopalians have our Liturgy and our worship service, but it is devoid of the Eucharist and our moral teachings where anything goes. If you are a Catholic, you are a member of the universal church in union with Rome. If you are not united with Rome, you are a Protestant. If you are an Episcopalian you are Catholic...more

Yes, there is an American Catholic Church and they are called Episcopalians.

Episcopalians have our Liturgy and our worship service, but it is devoid of the Eucharist and our moral teachings where anything goes.

If you are a Catholic, you are a member of the universal church in union with Rome. If you are not united with Rome, you are a Protestant. If you are an Episcopalian you are Catholic on the surface, but Protestant to the core.less

Oldstudent, I haven't read his stuff but I have been to his church four or five times with friends. Mark's sermons are strong on systematic exegesis, but he is becoming less and less Calvin and more and more Driscoll. His views usurp Calvin's thoughts many times for those who understand Reformed Theology(TULIP). He picks and chooses what form of Calvinism he preaches, but in the last few year...more

Oldstudent, I haven't read his stuff but I have been to his church four or five times with friends.

Mark's sermons are strong on systematic exegesis, but he is becoming less and less Calvin and more and more Driscoll. His views usurp Calvin's thoughts many times for those who understand Reformed Theology(TULIP).
He picks and chooses what form of Calvinism he preaches, but in the last few years his sermons are more Driscollism than straight Calvinism. I think he likes it that way and based on his cultish following he seems empowered to keep moving in his own direction.less

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DEMONCRATS! :( You will be judged like in the days of Soddom. hide

By the way, who said Mark Driscoll was a Theological Buff in the article? I'll admit he has some good Systematic Theology background, but a Theological buff are you kidding? That description is well above his station of ability. Rob Bell is a universalist which is totally unbiblical.

I love what you wrote. You've just eloquently summarized the Catholic position in lay terms. Thanks!

Great Poem!

Yes, they should apologize. Especially to Alaskan Native Indians who were predominantly Russian Orthodox or Catholic. The Evangelicals who did missionary work in Alaska after the US purchased it from Russia, took away their native languages and forced Protestantism on the tribes. The Native Tribes in Alaska had already been Christians(Russion Orthodox or Catholic) for hundreds of years. If the ...more

Yes, they should apologize. Especially to Alaskan Native Indians who were predominantly Russian Orthodox or Catholic. The Evangelicals who did missionary work in Alaska after the US purchased it from Russia, took away their native languages and forced Protestantism on the tribes. The Native Tribes in Alaska had already been Christians(Russion Orthodox or Catholic) for hundreds of years.

If the Pope can apologize for attrocities done by Catholics of previous centuries, then Evangelicals should do the same.less

Thank you Muggle and RefBap, I agree with you both. I tend to try and show my charity to my neighbor first to build a friendship and by my example they will see my Lord who has sent me to them, and then once I know them share the Good News with them verbally too. Example: Having lived in the Bronx, I would serve many people at the soup kitchen. After I see the same person more than once, I c...more

Thank you Muggle and RefBap,

I agree with you both. I tend to try and show my charity to my neighbor first to build a friendship and by my example they will see my Lord who has sent me to them, and then once I know them share the Good News with them verbally too.

Example: Having lived in the Bronx, I would serve many people at the soup kitchen. After I see the same person more than once, I create a dialogue with them trying to get to know their circumstance. Once we have a relationship, then I verbally share the Gospel with them. I am also not talking about just sharing the Gospel with the poor who need the food, many of the volunteers also need the good news too.

Pax.less

Be anxious for nothing and in all things have faith in your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who conquered death. Whether the end times come now or later, I don't care. What I do care about is that each and every day I choose Jesus to lead my life and I proactively live my life as a Christian. By His Grace through my faith and persevering in good works God has prepared for me I have nothing to fear...more

Be anxious for nothing and in all things have faith in your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who conquered death.

Whether the end times come now or later, I don't care. What I do care about is that each and every day I choose Jesus to lead my life and I proactively live my life as a Christian. By His Grace through my faith and persevering in good works God has prepared for me I have nothing to fear.

As Christians we should not fear the end, but welcome it because our end here is our beginning with Christ in Heaven. Let us use Lent to convert our own hearts to Christ and lead our neighbor to Christ through our example and love.less

Gn 1:27 complementarity of sexes reflects God's inner unity Gn 2:21-24 transmission of life thru total self donation-1 flesh Gn 19-Original sin deteriorates to Sodom's sin, town destroyed Lv. 18:22 called an abomination, cut off from people Lv 20:13 both shall be put to death for abominable deed Rom 1:27 called unnatural, shameful, and a perversity 1 Cor 6:9 active homosexuals won't inheri...more

Gn 1:27 complementarity of sexes reflects God's inner unity
Gn 2:21-24 transmission of life thru total self donation-1 flesh
Gn 19-Original sin deteriorates to Sodom's sin, town destroyed
Lv. 18:22 called an abomination, cut off from people
Lv 20:13 both shall be put to death for abominable deed

Rom 1:27 called unnatural, shameful, and a perversity
1 Cor 6:9 active homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom of God
1 Tim 1:9-10 those who engage in such acts called sinners.less

Well said.

Peaceful101. Homosexual activity is not confined to the English translation, but to the original in Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew. All say the same thing, Homosexual activity is evil.

Homosexuality is always wrong and disordered. The Bible, Sacred Tradition and the teaching authority of the Church have been consistent on this for 2000 years. If you are homosexual, choose the chaste life. If you are a heterosexual engaged in sexual activity and you are not married, stop! Chastity is for all unmarried people. The Truth is divisive and is meant to put brother against sister ...more

Homosexuality is always wrong and disordered. The Bible, Sacred Tradition and the teaching authority of the Church have been consistent on this for 2000 years.

If you are homosexual, choose the chaste life. If you are a heterosexual engaged in sexual activity and you are not married, stop! Chastity is for all unmarried people.

The Truth is divisive and is meant to put brother against sister and son against father. You either choose Jesus or choose the devil. No middle ground.less

There is only one God SBellam. Christians worship the same God, in the Trinity. This same Trinity is the same one God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. There is only one God. Most people do worship the Christian God as evidenced by every national and worldwide polling group. 2.3 Billion Christians from 2010 Barnam Research resources, while 1.2 Billion Muslims. 1.2 Billion are Catholic, 50 Million ar...more

There is only one God SBellam. Christians worship the same God, in the Trinity. This same Trinity is the same one God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

There is only one God. Most people do worship the Christian God as evidenced by every national and worldwide polling group. 2.3 Billion Christians from 2010 Barnam Research resources, while 1.2 Billion Muslims. 1.2 Billion are Catholic, 50 Million are "near Catholics", 300 Million are Orthodox, 80 Million Anglicans, 70 Million Reformed, 70 Million Lutherans, 60 Million Methodists, 65 Million Baptists and finally 400+ Million independant, non-denominational, pentecostal style churches.less

That picture looks like a lot of people in the audience and the guy on stage have a question. Hmmm?

I get it, so if these people were not Catholic it would have been better? So, a Catholic dying for spreading the Word of God is not such a bad thing then? The anti-Catholics on this board will be judged by our founder, Jesus Christ. Enjoy Purgatory! It won't be fun.

First let them know their sin. If they don't turn back then bring a witness. If they still won't turn back, then take it to the Church. Obviously, the SBC won't make the easy decision here. All Gays must be accepted as children of God, but they must live a chaste life or they will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Homosexual activity is an abomination to God. It is pure evil.

Hey Online, show me that the bible is the ONLY authority from the Bible and maybe IHS or any of us will do as you ask. The Bible is only one authoritative source from God. The Church hierarchy established and called by Christ himself in the Apostles passed down to the Bishops, then Sacred Tradition is on par with Sacred Scripture since they both come from the mouth of God.