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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
blue1018
Here they are. This is repeated to many times that being gay is a sin. You cant cherry pick what you want to believe in, it all or nothing. I had to adjust my live to please my Lord and Savior, just like all of His servants who fear Him.
Leviticus 18: 22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Romans 1:26-29
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[c] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,
1 Cornthians 6:9-20
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
Glorify God in Body and Spirit
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To the gay liberals: Flagging comments as inappropriate just because it is not in alignment with you way of thinking is wrong and you are stiff neck and unyielding in the words of truth from our Lord and Savior Jesus.
BmoreTeacher: you are mistaken, God does see male and female only in heaven, like the angels, there is no male or female. Hi word states six (6) different times that homosexually is an abomination or a sin. The Love that is referred to is not sexual but emotional like one would have with a parent, child, or sibling.
I wish that we would all come to the repentance in the Lord our Savior and love (not sexual but emotionally) one another as our Lord commands.
Note: Flag me and I will post again and again and again and
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Merkin,
You stated :
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jar1961,
I would rather save lives than punish "sins."
What's ironic is I'm an atheist, and yet my priorities are more in line with the teachings of Jesus than yours.
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Ummm, Jar1961 is correct and is in line with the gospel. If you know the Lords bible that you would hav also known that:
1) He finds no pleaser in seeing the destruction of the wicked
2) He wishes to see all come to repentants and accept him as Lord
3) All who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved
Jesus much rather save the sinner and teach him the straight and narrow path then to send him to hell.
So in short Merkin, no your priorities are not in line with our Lord and Savior.
Here is Zakaria Botros website.
http://www.islameyat.com/english/audio/father_zakaria_botros/questions_about_faith.htm
Click on: #1 Doctrine of Trinity. This was good to see his showing that God is one and that the Trinity is three in one. But at the end he is pointing out that the Jews/Christian Lord God Almighty is the same is in the Quran. If this is true then why does the Quran say that the rocks will cry out to cut off the Jews heads and that Allah hates the Jews and Christians?
To me this is a contradictory here between the Holy Bible and the Quran.
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blue1018 the Gay agenda is always forcing their way upon us. They bully those who dont agree with their views and say that we are closed minded and bigots. Just because I dont agree with them doesnt mean that Im closed mined it is because I have rejected their views. That is like you saying that because I dont support the drug dealers right to pus drug Im denying him the right to make a living.
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Feetxxxl you are mistaken there are many, Many, MANY verses that condemn this type of love (homosexual love) as you call it. Loving your neighbor is not to have sex with them but to have a love for them like you would with a parent or sibling. Here are six verses. Can you even provide one that will contradict these six? I asked for a verse, show me a verse. Some are in Old Testament and are in Hebrew.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Romans 1:27
Leviticus 18:22
1 Kings 14:24
Leviticus 20:13
Genesis 19:45-6
As far as
expressing ones understanding of sin is automatically okay. You are so off base here. This is not my understanding but how my God and Lord tell me what is sin. It is in black and white. There is no gray area here. you cant cherry-pick what you like and discard the rest as you see fit.
Yes you are correct in one thing, we are commanded to love God with all of our heart, mind soul and strength and that God is one. The second is like the first: to love our neighbor as ourselves. But Im not sure what your point is on what this has to do with homosexuals? This is not a green light to be gay.
As far as the condemnation, we are all guilty and all who knows and fears the Lord God Almighty knows that they are deserving of hell because they know that they have sinned. As in my first post that I made, I am so deserving of hell but my Lord and God has let me into repentance.
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Ok, this is getting messed up.
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and that those who oppose this behavior are hateful and uninformed, how are we hateful? We hate the sin, yes we do but not the sinner. Are we missed informed, no because this is what is taught in the bible.
And for the comment
loathe disrespect, harassment or violence toward any one, including their GLBT (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender) peers Yes we loathe and disrespect sin of any kind as we all should. For the showing of violence and harassment, by not accepting them and their sinful life style is harassment then this is good because we should not accept evil behavior. Just like liars, thieves, murders and adulteress that dont repent will not enter in the kingdom of heaven.
I, myself, am guilty of all the above sins and more. I, more than any, should go straight to hell because of my evil, wicked, and perverse lifestyle (oh how I hate my sinful ways). But by His grace and mercy He had pity on me and led me into repentance.
Now I know that there are a few gay Christians out there that say that this is an ok lifestyle and that we are just ill informed because we are bigots. Ok, I can accept that I am wrong if you can show me a couple of verses in the bible that say its ok to be gay. Because I have found a dozen that say it is wrong to be gay.
Jesus loves you and will take you as you are but He loves you too much to leave you as you are. He will change your ways if you are not stiffed neck, rebellious and have a heart of stone to His word and ways.
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I question why are they doing this? Should we help or hinder Israel? The Palestines, are they not Muslims and want to kill the Jews, Christians and anyone else who dont believe as they do? We should gain the trust of people with different prospective but if they only have in their hearts to kill use then how can we hope to gain their trust? Not every Muslim is like this but there are enough for Israel to be cautious.
Should we love all the people of this world including our enemies, yes we should. But if our enemies are waging war against our Lords chosen people who should we then ally with? I choose to ally with those who fear the Lord my Savior and God.
We could encourage Israel to do good but we also must realize that they need to protect themselves too. Remember, some of these site house terrorist and this is why they do some of the thing that they do. I do believe that this is the wrong course of action.
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Jason1010
By the tone in your writing you seem very angry. DannyPoo was correct in his statement because he simply quoted God 'made them male and female. Which this tells you that this is the way it was, it is, and it will be because the Lord God Almighty created us this way. In Romans 1:18-32 (paraphrase) it said that He gave evil men over to the lustful desires of their heart for degrading of their bodies with one another.
Also to say that 1 Corinthians 7:2 is being debated as to the meaning, it states it very clearly that it is between a man and woman. This is not Flimsy evidence as you would call it. The Bible has multiple passages that are against homosexuality.
You also said that DannyPoo has no rational basis but from the outdated prejudice. My question is how is this out dated? Because we are in the 21st century and man should have new/better ideas? This is the Word of God our Heavenly Father. He is never changing and He will not change just to justify your or my thoughts or ideology.
I am sadden to say that if you believe that being homosexual is ok then you are taken in by the worlds desires to rebel against my Creator and Masters commandments and His will. If your generation is X, that is my generation too, then they are confused and wanting to go the way of the world. I know, I was in that same thinking at one time.
Hi scitsonga,
Im not sure how much of the Holy Bible you have read but it does say that He reviles Himself to babes (uneducated) but confuses the wise and that you dont throw perils before swine meaning that you dont give good things to someone who will not appreciate it or take care of it. Like giving a 16 year old a 150k Porsche or Ferrari for example.
Yes, you should take the Holy Bible literally but you also should know that Jesus spoke in parables for the reasons given above. When someone has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and, confessed to Him that he/she is a sinner and asked for forgiveness then the Holy Spirit will teach you as you grow in understanding of our Lords words.
For the comment of the fanatic or sorts as you call them. The best was to explain that you should not love anyone or thing more than the Lord is best said by our lord. You cannot have two masters for you will love one and hate the other. If you had tow thing that you love greatly but the two were at odds with each other than you would have to chose between one over the other.
For the Worship thing, we worship God Almighty because:
a) He is interested in our lives
b) Jesus died on the cross for our sins so that we would not be separated from him eternally
c) (The most important reason) He loves us so much that while we were His enemies He still scarifies His only begotten Son. His Son paid for our sins by his death so that we may live with Him forever. That none shall parish but all will come to the saving knowledge of Christ our Savior.
If you have any more questions, please let me know.
Here is the movie link, watch it and read my comments. Please correct me if Im wrong in anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGw6rsQ8xHk
Fitna: in case you missed it. There are some disturbing images.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410
Mark 16:15-16, this is only backs up our Lords statement: (Im paraphrasing here) I am the way the truth and the life no one come to the Father except through me, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and the wages of sin is death, eternal separation from God our Heavenly Father And the filmmakers point is
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What happen at Srebrenica on 11/7/95? 8,000 men and boys died in Bosnian. Correct me if Im wrong but is this not a former Atheist Soviet bloc? How are Christians responsible?
Mathew 10:34, this is true but here is referring to one loving some family members more than our Lord. This only backs up His statement that we should love Him above all others and things in this world.
Revelation 3:19, this backs our Lords statement that our Heavenly Father will only discipline who He loves, His children. He will not discipline who are not His children (and I want to be disciplined to prefection in Christ Jesus). Spear the rod, spoil the child. The Lord doesnt want us to be spoiled. Again, and the filmmakers point is
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Then it showed a cult leader from Jonestown killing his member. Uuuummmmm
.ok, that was a bad thing but, again?
He said not to be offended by this movie because this took things out of context. In the movie Fitna, there are many Muslim preachers saying that they should hate the Jews and cut off their heads. Also, that Islam was once the only religion. It has been around since 800 AD. Christianity is 800 years older and based from the Jewish Torah which has what, 5,000 years?
The film maker stated that he made it in 12 hours and that Fitna was made in 3 Months. Im guessing that Fitna did more research. Also, he said that there is only one God. This is true but I get the feeling that he was trying to point out that we all believe in the same God. The path to hell is wide but the path to Heaven is narrow. Be very careful and wise in your choosing, for there is but only one true Living God, The Lord God Almighty.
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Surat. 1:7
The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace , not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians)
Ummmmm
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Yes, the Lords anger will be kindled when any follower (Jew or Christian) goes after other gods or goes astray. But the Holy bible also states that if they will call out His name in the day of their distress that He will forgive and deliver them. The Lord will not break his promise that he has chosen Israel as his chosen people.
With that said this next statement has logic to it.
Now if you think about it (follow me here) the devil would make the statement
those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians) because in Revelation 12:1-6 the beast is warring against the Jews and her offspring (gentiles turned Christen) because they follow the true Living God Almighty.
I do have a question for any Muslim. Please answer this question.
Muslims hates the Jews because of what the Quran says, correct?
Jesus is a Jews. He was born to a Jewish mother who was married to a Jewish man and grew up reading the Jewish Torah. (Remember, Muslim came about 800 years after the death of Jesus) .
So how can Muslim respect any Jew when you hate them all?
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blue1018 wrote:
-Ok to express his views, but speaking in that tone his thoughts would have offended gay students, and that's not right.
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By you saying speaking in that tone what tone would that be? That he
believes his religion requires him to speak out against what he sees as behavior that doesn't comport with his understanding of Christian morality?
If so, then Morrison is correct. We all need to speak out against what our Lord and Savior tells us what is evil. Yes, being gay is evil just like rape, robbing, murder even a little white lie.
Anything that our Lord finds displeasing to Him we should also find it displeasing to us as well.
I know that there are some out there that say the Holy Bible doesnt condemn homosexuality but they are sadly mistaken. There are many verses that denounce this type of practice.
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For socojo2002, here is the link to the film in question
be forewarned, there are some disturbing images of beheadings and other types of killing from these peaceful Muslims.
Fitna movie
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410
Now the irony is that they will riot and bomb us because we offended Islam for calling it a violent religion.
The question I have is this: If a good Christian loves and a lukewarm Christian hates, does a good Muslim hate and a lukewarm Muslim love? (I read this from someone else comments, forget who)
Remember our Lords commandment, (Im paraphrasing here) love you enemy and pray for them. Christians ranks grew by loving others, but how did Muslim ranks grow? I just dont understand why they seem to be unforgiving and cant try to love the outcast, sinner, and/or unbeliever into their religion.
I hope Im not off mark here with any of my comments; I just have a hard time in separating logic from feeling. I know this is all a spiritual warfare between our Almighty Father and the deceiver. Just keep in mind that He said that He will win by His Sprit.
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