Christian, Pro-Family Groups Stand Up Against 'Criminalizing' Right to Speak Truth

DKeat8043 »

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

*I'm much more likely to kill again if I killed.......

Christian, Pro-Family Groups Stand Up Against 'Criminalizing' Right to Speak Truth

DKeat8043 »

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:35 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

DannyPoo, We already use people's thoughts to grade punishments. If someone kills with pre-meditation, it's first degree murder. If someone does not kill intentionally, if he's merely reckless, it's manslaughter. Can't you make the same argument that this system criminalizes thoughts? By your logic, a killing is a killing and it doesn't matter what the person is thinking.

The thing opponents of hate crime laws don't understand is that people who target people because of a characteristic such as religion or sexual orientation are much more dangerous to society because they have many more possible targets. I'm much more to kill again if I killed someone because he is black than if I killed someone because he slept with my wife. The reasons people act are important because they indicate what sort of future threat those people are.

Christian, Pro-Family Groups Stand Up Against 'Criminalizing' Right to Speak Truth

DKeat8043 »

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:34 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

Furthermore, DannyPoo, your conclusion does not follow from your argument. This bill does not criminalize speech, only violent action, and I would be against any attempt to prevent people from SPEAKING out against gays. However, it's important that those who commit violence against gays simply because they are gay be punished severely.