Barna: Jesus' Health Care Plan Would Include Everyone

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Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:39 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Anyone remember "give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's," Jesus doesn't say to keep giving more and more and more to Ceasar.
And I am quite certain that we are not to be relying on Ceasar for all our needs, since God is the one who provides, and He prefers to do it through the Body of Christ, AKA The CHURCH. Our Founding Fathers would be starting an entirely new revolution over the Taxation that is increasing regardless of the reasons for the taxes, not to mention the complete overstepping of Federal Powers which are clearly laid out. Anyways, the health care option is only one facet of what this radical gov't is trying to do all at once.

Fighting Words about the Bible?

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Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

The point is this: God is working in every person's life, and they will seek answers at some point. If you are one they inquire upon, how informed are you to rebuff these claims? Knowing what the enemy is twisting is important in order to make oneself ready for the questions once they arise.

Vt. Governor to Veto Gay Marriage Bill

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

MIKE22865 like I said, you sure are persistent.

Vt. Governor to Veto Gay Marriage Bill

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

MIKE22685
How fond of you I am. Your persistence and crudeness are wielded quite impressively. Let's cut to the chase though. Some people have a tendency towards being gamblers. Some people have an affinity for death and killing. Some people cannot stop stealing. Some people are pathological liars. There are also those that won't resist the temptation to have sex with people other than their spouse... I could go on and on and on. Any one of these people could say "GOD made me this way so it must be okay." One could never prove they were not born with a predisposition to any one of these things. Actually, the Bible tells us that we all have a predisposition to these things. We are born sinners. So MIKE, I agree, yes you were born a sinner. Yes, God loves you, and He has a plan for you, and He has given us His Word to help us through this life and through Jesus given us a way to be with him for eternity. It is a problem if you think your sin is better than the institution God Sanctified: MARRIAGE.

Anglican Leader Warns of Ecological 'Doomsday'

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

And I say this because he is placing a focus on something that cannot be substantiated thoroughly instead of working on the G20 to work on re-establishing core values like marriage or to lead with integrity. He is simply trying to win the approval of the masses instead of trying to win the masses for Christ.

Anglican Leader Warns of Ecological 'Doomsday'

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

ZakariyaRazi-
Science is made up of theories based on observations. Science cannot answer a single WHY simply a bunch of "if this then most likely thats." So, there is obviously room for doubt when an experiment cannot be held with a control and different variables observed based on the "scientific method." Is it wrong to treat this great planet that God made with respect, obviously not. But, for the main concern of an "Archbishop" to be climate control for which no proof has been made that man can control, then it is clear he is not living in "the Word."

4 Important Facts You Probably Don't Know About the Stimulus Package

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Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:40 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

I don't know what the perfect answer to the economic situation is other than prayer. But, I do know that the way this act was passed is completely disgusting. Anyone willing to lean specifically on democrats or republicans as the correct "side" is in need of having the scales removed from their eyes. The government needs a serious re-adjustment.

Also, the mentality that rich people should be treated different stems from the same lack of sense racism does. Should a wealthy person pay a greater percentage just because they are wealthy any more than laws should determine how people with a particular skin color should be treated? God only requests 10%, and that is from everyone. He expects us to help our brothers and sisters in need, but does not threaten to take more and more away unless we do.

The more one leans on the government, the less he leans on God.

What Price Life?

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Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:33 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

SteveO, Why should he not have the option to pay for it though? The Times article is saying that he's not even given that option.

Rick Warren's Biggest Critics: Other Evangelicals

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Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:19 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

I agree completely on the Abortion issue. This is the issue I've had the hardest time with in regards to Obama being elected. It breaks my heart.
I have not said to compromise. Daniel did not eat of the food of the table of the King. In many ways I feel that Warren should not have accepted because he is providing an "approved" stamp to the president-elect by praying for him. But, as I said before, what about the example Daniel gives us?
Yes, "go and sin no more", but she obviously believed something and was receptive at the time. By jamming stuff down peoples throats one is working by the way of the world. I struggle with the same issue and many times want to get up on the corner and scream the Word. You view other peoples approaches as wrong and therefore believe it is compromise. I suggest prayer and petition is a better alternative. I have watched family members that have been completely lost come to know Jesus through prayer and a good example of what life should be like. On the other hand, I have watched once friends lose touch because they didn't want to hear or see what was going on in my life.
I'm in no way asking for someone to compromise their values, but how is it that one can force others to act in another way and even if it is a lie to them because they do not believe? Or, how do we judge how Biblical someone is?
I enjoy your energy and love of the Word, but like I said, there is a better way to win people over, and once Jesus is in their heart He can do amazing things. Think of all the people that are getting exposed to the faith through all the hype that has been caused by Obama being chosen to speak. By how we react to him so to will others that don't yet believe.

Merry Christmas to all! I will be tuning the world out for the next couple of days as we celebrate His Birthday!.

Rick Warren's Biggest Critics: Other Evangelicals

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Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:14 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

And, avoiding being a friend of the world does not mean that we should not be sympathetic to the people of this world. If your heart is closed to actually wanting to help people then you are of no use to God. Did HE ask us to love our neighbor but talk to them like they are trash? How can the two go together?

Rick Warren's Biggest Critics: Other Evangelicals

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Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:07 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

ARTM and anyone else,
Are we not supposed to be a light that leads people to the saving grace of Christ Jesus? Or, are we supposed to be a blinding light that leaves them unable to see the truth because we have burned closed their eyes with arrogance and conceit and anger? I remember reading about Jesus sitting and dining with people of less than great character in several instances. I don't remember it talking about him arguing with anyone in those instances. I do remember him calling out the pharisees because they were more concerned with rules than with people. I see where Paul tells us that arguing only destroys both sides and if a person is divisive to correct them twice then walk away if they continue. And, in Proverbs, 9 for example, we are taught that to" correct a mocker invites insult", and to "rebuke a wicked man incurs abuse." It doesn't teach us that by screaming that they are wrong they will immediately change their ways and tell us they are sorry.
Did Daniel take it upon himself to rewrite the laws of the land to better suit the Israelites? How about Joseph? These guys seemed to be amazing leaders, but I don't see where they battled from their posts to create a new order?
NO, we are not supposed to accept sin into our life, but where does it say we are supposed to beat everyone over the head with Jesus until they submit or destroy us? Use a little sense in your arguments and don't temper them with so much rage. Perhaps your point will come across where you want it to. Besides what is your purpose for arguing anyhow? What do you intend to accomplish?

The Bible and Proposition 8

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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Blacksho- Thank you for your pleasant response, but this is how we are instructed to handle people like him...

Titus 3:9-11
"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him. You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."

The Bible and Proposition 8

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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:17 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

artm
I don't suggest for us to lie and pretend what they do as alright. But, I more or less call people to make a decision. Too much of the church is wrapped up in the ways of the world and this filters into the constant arguing over the same subject that is absolute nonsense. Do you realize how many people have tried to change Mike22685's mind? He's not going to ever say 'oh I guess you are right I should change my ways.' There are plenty like him that have given their opinions on how the Bible should be read. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who follow people like this without ever reading the Bible for themselves. By getting heated up and calling other people names and liars we are not going to win anyone over. God's Truth is True. Just like he told the Israelites how to live so they can be a beacon of God's love and glory to the entire world so too has he called us gentile believers to live a life that leads people to him. Where in the Bible are we instructed go out to unbelievers and bicker with them? We are instructed to take His Word to the ends of the earth, and He didn't mean with a club. Ever heard "it's like shoveling dung against the tide?" You can't make progress that way.
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The Bible and Proposition 8

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Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:50 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

The talk about the Newsweek article being a different Christian perspective is nonsense. I would invite all to read the Bible from Beginning to End, Genesis to the end of Revelation and then let God speak to you through His word and it will be very evident where He expects us as believers to be in our walk.
It is very clear that He does not intend for us to argue with unbelievers. The New Testament is geared mostly towards Jewish and Gentile Christians. We are instructed not to argue over nonsense since this kind of arguing only destroys both sides. Yet we find both sides engaged in nonsense arguing and losing sight of what really matters. Just to make a point about how we can never with arguments and words turn people that don't want to turn, read Revelation and see what the hard hearted will go through and still not repent. They will curse God and blame him until the very end.

So, two points:
First,They cannot take away Christ from us no matter if they don't want to say Christmas anymore or not. If they want to celebrate Santa Day the same day we celebrate the Birth of Jesus then great, Happy Santa Day to those who don't believe and MERRY CHRISTMAS to those who do! If people don't really believe why should we want them to say Merry Christmas when we are asking them to lie? In the same breath, if the Gov't wants to allow civil unions in the name of civil rights, please, then just don't call it marriage. Let marriage continue to be a covenant in front of God between a man and a woman. If people don't want to get married and promise before God to love their spouse until they die then allow both heterosexual and homosexuals to have a civil union. Don't tell God what Marriage should be, he has already made it clear. And obviously 50% of America doesn't truly value marriage anyways with the divorce rates we see. So, why should we ask them to get married when that is causing them to enter into a covenant they don't intend to keep?

Second, I agree with a great amount of the pro gay marriage crowd in one instance, there is certainly a Christian population that is in a defensive mode that is less than conducive to winning people over. By telling people they are sinners all of the time and being relentless in the pursuit of winning the argument on whether they are living in sin or not leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths. We will never lead people to their sins. Ever try telling an Alcoholic they have a problem? Take that however you want, the point is people don't want to believe they are doing wrong until they absolutely must. One good quote I like is " the purpose of an argument should be progress, not victory." We must live as a holy people and the light we shine will be evidence of God living in us. His light shining through us will lead people to salvation, not our worldly arguments and prideful defense of something that is clearly written.

The Bible and Proposition 8

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Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Let them argue with God directly. He is good at defending Himself. Let us be the ones they envy to be because of our peaceful and blessed life.

Homosexuality: Misconceptions in Ministry

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Titus 1:15-16
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable and disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

Homosexuality: Misconceptions in Ministry

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and trun aside to myths.

Homosexuality: Misconceptions in Ministry

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

2 Timothy: 19b
Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.

Homosexuality: Misconceptions in Ministry

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Titus 3:9-11
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him. You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

Is Michelle Obama 'Letting Down the Team?'

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:13 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Wic simply said that it should be choice as an option, which is agreeable. Having a choice is a sign of freedom or power. This choice should be celebrated. But, the feminist movement tends to look at someone like Mrs. Obama as a star running back, or that she could be a star quarterback, and now she's not even playing.
It is sad that anyone would feel that child rearing is embarrassing. It is more awesome than I could ever have imagined.