PaH...an interesting statement. I don't know of a handful of "Pastors" getting rich. However, I do know many Pastors that make a fair wage for their work. I know, for our Pastor, that he gets a flat salary. Any money earned from His speaking engagements gets paid to the church...not him. In fact, he earns most if not all of his salary through his extra work outside the church leaving all that othe...more

PaH...an interesting statement. I don't know of a handful of "Pastors" getting rich. However, I do know many Pastors that make a fair wage for their work. I know, for our Pastor, that he gets a flat salary. Any money earned from His speaking engagements gets paid to the church...not him. In fact, he earns most if not all of his salary through his extra work outside the church leaving all that other money to the ministry of the church....less

ONB...business law and civil law are quite different....

Just FYI, Bart "Simpson" Ehrman has made a lifes work out of his anti-Christ beliefs. Ain't he in for a shock!!!

Please note that Nellie provided no evidence that 2 Peter was written by someone else. Just judgemental speculation by radical sin loving extremists....

Satans old tactic of trying to make Bible believing Christians all "fundamentalists" look ignorant in order to justify ignoring the truth of the Bible. Look Nellie...if you want to sin just sin. It doesn't matter if you believe the Bible or not. They judgement for those who want to sin is the same. Just ignore what you want and do what you want. Just realize there will be a day when Jesus will str...more

Satans old tactic of trying to make Bible believing Christians all "fundamentalists" look ignorant in order to justify ignoring the truth of the Bible. Look Nellie...if you want to sin just sin. It doesn't matter if you believe the Bible or not. They judgement for those who want to sin is the same. Just ignore what you want and do what you want. Just realize there will be a day when Jesus will straighten it all out for you and you won't like it.less

The verse is quoted in many manuscripts between 200AD and 1500AD. http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/1john57.asp

Proof please NF....

gdb...when a person comes to the Bible to be changed by what is written then they are looking for what is there. When a person comes to the Bible but doesn't want to be changed (like repenting of homosexuality, greed, adultery, ect) then they tend to change the Bible to not condemn their sin for what it is. Even Jesus pointed that out over and over and over and over.........

Quite right 2OS.... God is clear what sex was created to be and that homosexuality ain't it....

Mat 7:22-23 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Perhaps this "pastor" should have paid more attention to his own sin nature....

I was there you youngin!!! They were trying to make alcoholism a biological trait trying to say it was an inherited trait to explain why alcoholism runs in families. You'll find some interesting reading at: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mental-illness/

The Bible tells us to render onto Ceasar that which is Ceasars. This is America. The arguement put forth by WJ is contrary to this command. Our government is a reflection of the people. That's the basis of America. It is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Unless Christians are not part of the people the entire arguement is nothing but bigoted prejudice hatespeech....

Quite right WJ. Gays enjoy the exact same rights as straights in America. Quite right. Not sure what the rest of your post means in the real world....

Actually, J2004, back in the 70's they were trying to make alcoholism immutable behavoir....

Actually the post is a farce WJ...you see even the pro-gay people that got it changed said it was political...not medical. “It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Pro-Sodomy Activist) ...more

Actually the post is a farce WJ...you see even the pro-gay people that got it changed said it was political...not medical. “It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.” (Barbara Gittings, Pro-Sodomy Activist) Nice try though....less

gdb...Genesis says that God made man in His own image. That is not said of lower life forms. The question is if you hold to Gods standards or that of an animal....

Juan...please tell us the subject on page 79....

Gays dehumanize themselves by saying they don't have to power to control their behavior and desires. Only when you accept that you can change can you begin to change....

WJ...the APA disagrees with you. They are your pro-gay friends and they say nobody knows. You have the same civil right to marry as I do.

I have been doing research on this guy and been studying his preaching for about 9 months now (week by week). I am an alumni of a conservative Bible college who work in Christian radio for over 12 years (broadcasting programs by John McArthur, Charles Stanley, Chuck Swindoll and Billy Graham to name a few) . So, please enlighten us as to what your specific hermeneutics and apologetics to back up y...more

I have been doing research on this guy and been studying his preaching for about 9 months now (week by week). I am an alumni of a conservative Bible college who work in Christian radio for over 12 years (broadcasting programs by John McArthur, Charles Stanley, Chuck Swindoll and Billy Graham to name a few) . So, please enlighten us as to what your specific hermeneutics and apologetics to back up your claim that he is a heretic. Please provide the message he preached along with your proof you are providing. The messages can be found at www.newspring.cc/watchandlistenless