Megachurch Pastor Guides Christians on Alcohol, R-Rated Movies

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Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:29 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

The Lord teaches us to moderate everything except our devotion to God. For alcohol, scripture forbids drunkenness but not partaking. Christ consumed wine and mentioned at the Passover supper that he would not drink it again until his resurrection. I, as a recovering alcoholic cannot drink, but I don't see that it is wrong or sinful for those who can control themselves to drink. Moderation in all things is what is called for. Over indulgence becomes a form of idolatry where the behavior takes on a more important role in our lives than does Jesus.

Was Jesus Christ Free to Sin?

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Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:25 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

If Christ could not sin the how could he be tempted? To use the mushroom analogy, since you hate mushrooms then you are not tempted to partake of them. If Jesus was incapable of sin then how was he tempted in the wilderness? Being fully human, Jesus had to be tempted regardless of the fact that he was born without original sin. Adam was not born with original sin yet he succumbed to temptation. Being fully divine, however, Christ was incapable of sinning. To me it is logical to assume that he was tempted (fully human) but was unable to succumb to the temptation (fully divine). I think a better analogy might be that of someone with a peanut allergy. That person may be tempted by peanut butter but is not capable of eating it.

College Football Star Tim Tebow Seeks Larger Platform for Christ

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Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

See Believer, one cannot VOLUNTEER to go to heaven so we can safely say that there are no VOLUNTEERS in heaven.

College Football Star Tim Tebow Seeks Larger Platform for Christ

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Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:29 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

Tim truly reflects a life led by Christ and lets nothing stand in his way to past on the message of our Savior to those who need it most. May God continue to bless Tim Tebow!

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Mike85 I've missed nothing, thank you! You interpret differently than I do, but don't pretend you speak for God!

Do you read out of scripture what it has to say or do you read in to scripture what you think it should say? Do you reject the character of God in the Old Testament but approve of His character in the New Testament? I see the same God in both. You mention Christ changing the Levitical laws, does that now mean that child sacrifice and bestiality is OK? Homosexuality is nestled between the two so what is your take on this?

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:55 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

Marq420: FlaGator you are not Christ. Your agenda is not that of Christ and you make that apparent with every post.

Most interesting. I express my desire that God love you and bless you and you respond with hate and arrogance. I live my life by attempting to do what Christ asks of me but you seem to enjoy wallowing in your anger. I can, perhaps, understand this given your situation and I will still pray that God will walk with you and guide you in all you do and show you the same love that he has shown me.

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

Marq420 so did Christ hate the adultery when he told her go on and sin no more? Christ tells us to hate sin and homosexuality is a sin. I hate the sin you commit. However, I do not hate you or any homosexual. I do as Christ asks me. I pray for your salvation and I pray that the Lord our God delivers blessing and good fortune on you regardless of your choice to sin or to repent. You are a creation of God just as I am. You are a sinner just as I am. I have repented my sins and with the help of the Holy Spirit I struggle with then daily. I pray that you will deny yourself and join Christ and the fellowship of the Body.

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

Marq420: The passages have nothing to do with homosexuality but are about all some people have to cling to in order to support hate.

Romans 1:24-27 seem to refute your assertion and speak directly as a denouncment of homosexual behavior

Therefore God gave them overv in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:15 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

So then you agree with me that Leviticus 20:13 is not a command from God?

So far you have offered no proof other than you "feel" your view is right that God did not make this statement through Moses. Until you can prove this your argument has no standing and no merit.

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:12 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 4

The word fornication was translated in the 17th century from the Greek word pornia which referred to all forms of sexual immorality including homosexuality. At the time of the translation the word fornication represented all forms of sexual immorality including homosexuality. Over the centuries the word fornication has taken on its more exclusive meaning of sex outside of marriage. The original intent, however was that homosexuality was inclusive to both words. Just because the words mean something different than when originally translated does not mean that homosexuality is now ok. It just means that the current meaning of the word has changed. You have to look at the origninal intent and the original intent was that homosexuality was and is wrong. God's Word doesn't change.

Episcopal Body Gives Final OK to Scrap Gay Ordination Ban

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:00 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 5

As an Episcopalian I am profoundly embarrased by the church I love. To renounce Christ and His teachings now makes totally apostate and is no longer entitled to call itself a Christain fellowship. To renounce the Gospel that was given to us by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and to embrace the values of the world makes the Episcopal Lodge just another secular service organization.

John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

The world now loves the Episcopal Service Club.

Majority of Episcopalians Favor Scrapping Ban on Gay Ordination

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Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:28 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Bryan: How would humanity adopt the teachings of Christ if everybody losses faith and hope so quickly?

Christ tells us that this is bound to happen. Matthew 24:10- 14
At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.And this gospel of the kingdomo will be preached in the whole worldp as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Majority of Episcopalians Favor Scrapping Ban on Gay Ordination

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Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:16 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

This is somewhat misleading. The article should read that most Episcopal Bishops are for scrapping a ban on gay ordination. The laity that I know have different options about his. It will be interesting to see how many people and parishes leave after this General Convention.

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:30 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 1

HM. Don't get me wrong. I am in no way advocating the murder or mistreatment of homosexuals. I am asking that they do what all sinners have to do and repent of their sins and seek forgiveness. The Lord has categorized homosexual behavior as a sin just has He has labeled sex outside of marriage and indulging in anything that takes ones eyes off of God as sinful. As a slave to my sinful nature I wanted to, among other things, drink heavily and sleep around. I now know that this behavior is not pleasing to the Lord so after coming to Christ I prayed that he take it from me and He did. I still struggle with the urges from time to time but I rely on the strength of a loving and caring God to bring me through these storms and safely out the other side. If I do slip along the way He picks me up and forgives me because He knows that I am weak and He uses my lapse to strengthen me. Deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus. The fact that you desire Him means you hear His call. Die to your sin and find life in Christ.

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:11 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

Yes, the Word is true; but the "individual" interpretations are false. So what now. We are stuck.

Dan, that is why the Holy Spirit gives the gift of discernment to those who have truly accepted Christ as their savior so perhaps we're not as stuck as you think we are. Just because some have taught a different Gospel than the one that was given to us through the Apostles doesn't mean that the truth isn't available to those who seek it. When you listen to a minister or teach speak of something validate it with scripture. Start with the scripture the teacher gave you and validate his/her interpretation of that scripture with other scripture. See if the interpretation holds up. The truth is out there.

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:03 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

HM: I will not join you in worshiping an evil imaginary idol.

That is precisely what you are doing. You pick and choose the things you like from the Bible and write off the rest. That is idolatry. You are constructing a God that is pleasing to you and not looking at the real God. The Sovereign Lord has the power to remove from the Bible those passages which He doesn't agree with, yet those passages have lasted for 3,000+ years. If a man wrote them then why did God chose to leave them? Why would God let them stand knowing they would be used to justify abuse and worse of homosexuals? Seems like the loving god you worship may not be so loving after all.

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:36 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

The Archbishop of Canterbury is a confused man who is too concerned with appeasing everybody than with taking a stand for the Word regardless of the consequences to himself or the Anglican Communion. As Christians we must stand firm by the Word no matter what the individual cost might be. Christ may not desire physical warriors but He does not call for cowards either. Meek does not mean being a doormat for heretics.

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

HomosexualMan: God did *not* say this. Some murderous human being wrote it because he wanted to kill people.

Can you prove this or do you just "feel" that God wouldn't disprove of homosexuality?

Anglican Head: Tensions Within Church Stem from Deep Bonds

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:43 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Then Jesus said to his disciples, If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

Matthew 16:24

ELCA Head: Church Unity Will Not Be Lost by Vote

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Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:39 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

If they want to see what the outcome of this vote will be then they need look no further than The Episcopal Church and the new Anglican Providence being created by Episcopalians who left to find a Church home that was more supportive of Scripture and of Christ Jesus.