You sound like Clinton -- "I did not have sex with that woman".

Free to write your own dictionary, that is. You already write your own definitions!

gd, greek had many more words to express ideas than we did, the word "love" is a good example of this. They had words for love that left out all the adjectives and the word itself meant love in a specific context. And so, that is what the word porneia does, in the context of it's definition. In english, we sometimes separate meanings, such as in the word "broad". However, not ALL of our words...more

gd, greek had many more words to express ideas than we did, the word "love" is a good example of this. They had words for love that left out all the adjectives and the word itself meant love in a specific context. And so, that is what the word porneia does, in the context of it's definition. In english, we sometimes separate meanings, such as in the word "broad". However, not ALL of our words are so narrow, and sexual intercourse is in that category -- it means sticking the p*nis in any number of possible orifices. Get over it, that's just the way it is. If you don't like the dictionary definition, you are free to write your own.less

Amen, chris!

"christian" simply means follower of Christ.

"That's a rather cruel joke having all the Jewish people do the work for Christian salvation." Jesus was Jewish, all the apostles were Jewish -- Jews were the first "Christians".

No, we're talking about God's Word and understanding it.

Apparently you haven't read the Bible, because it is shur 'nuff there. The things you're "not understanding" here are basic gd. You're not understanding because you're not here for understanding. You're here because you think it's fun to debate. Fair enough. But don't expect us to keep explaining the same things over and over when you are just interested in being "clever".

No gd, he means that the Holy Spirit isn't in those that don't know God. Without the Holy Spirit you are unable to understand the things of God. This is biblical, you've been told it before, along with verses given.

No peace, read again what I said. "Here is something to think about – all of Jesus apostles died a martyr’s death for His sake (except for John), and still they all insisted with their last breath that He had risen. This, from those who were with Him from the beginning and would have every reason to KNOW if it were true. Would you die for something you knew to be false?" Big difference her...more

No peace, read again what I said. "Here is something to think about – all of Jesus apostles died a martyr’s death for His sake (except for John), and still they all insisted with their last breath that He had risen. This, from those who were with Him from the beginning and would have every reason to KNOW if it were true. Would you die for something you knew to be false?"

Big difference here. Yes muslim martyrs die, that's my whole point. They may die for something they believe (or want to believe, anyway), but Jesus' apostles died for what they KNEW to be true. They were there, saw Him dead on a cross, buried, and then were there when He walked and talked among them again, and watched Him ascend before their very eyes. THIS is what they died a martyr's death for.

Very large difference between the two.less

The USAtoday article appears to be written like most newspaper articles; I tried finding an original Washington Times article dated 5/15/2002 referred to for muslims tearing up the bible for toilet paper, and found that the archives appear to stop at 5/17/2002! But then again, that would have been another newspaper article. But, you know, we read stories in current newspapers and magazines o...more

The USAtoday article appears to be written like most newspaper articles; I tried finding an original Washington Times article dated 5/15/2002 referred to for muslims tearing up the bible for toilet paper, and found that the archives appear to stop at 5/17/2002! But then again, that would have been another newspaper article.

But, you know, we read stories in current newspapers and magazines of the same type of things happening. We already know that issues such as those stated above in this article are occurring. The reality is that it has become politically correct to tell Christians they must accomodate today's cultural standards, and yet our biblical faith stipulates that no such "accomodation" is possible. I have yet to discover anything that shows that muslims are held to these same standards. I don't think the reasons behind that fact are such a surprise.less

Peace, you said “If any god existed, and was as powerful as believers think, that god could easily make itself known, yet there are no documented cases of any such thing.” You know, there are documented cases, but you don’t accept the source. Here is something to think about – all of Jesus apostles died a martyr’s death for His sake (except for John), and still they all insisted wi...more

Peace, you said “If any god existed, and was as powerful as believers think, that god could easily make itself known, yet there are no documented cases of any such thing.” You know, there are documented cases, but you don’t accept the source.

Here is something to think about – all of Jesus apostles died a martyr’s death for His sake (except for John), and still they all insisted with their last breath that He had risen. This, from those who were with Him from the beginning and would have every reason to KNOW if it were true. Would you die for something you knew to be false?

The legal evidence is strong enough that some very fine minds, including some exceptional legal minds, are convinced of it’s truth.

Just something to think about.less

obey, thanks for letting me know about the abuse button, I surely would have wondered why lol! I guess I don't understand what you are after in the way of substantive info, corrobortative evidence, links, proof. I understand that anyone can print anything, but this is certainly not a "christian fact distorting" source. Just what are you looking for?

aniel, that's funny. I'm pretty sure there isn't one of us here that hasn't done that. Thanks for clearing that up.

We all vote our conscience. Jesus' people conscience comes from Jesus.

This is too funny -- just what is it about my post that there is to disagree with? Perhaps it is the audacity I have shown in challenging obeythefist's assertation........by using google?

obeythefist: "I googled the bullet points but was unable to come up with concrete evidence that any of them was true other than links to self-suppoting, Christian sites that take a few facts and distort them to support their points. I wasted a lot of time trying to find proof of these claims, so I just stopped. I don't care to spend any more time on it." You know, I googled just one sentence f...more

obeythefist: "I googled the bullet points but was unable to come up with concrete evidence that any of them was true other than links to self-suppoting, Christian sites that take a few facts and distort them to support their points. I wasted a lot of time trying to find proof of these claims, so I just stopped. I don't care to spend any more time on it."

You know, I googled just one sentence from one bullet and found this article that actually covered more than one bullet.
One sentence, one try, one non-christian verification source.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-25-muslim-special-treatment-from-schools_N.htmless

JB, the subject was adoption, not homosexuality. These passages DO speak of the Lord's wish to adopt us, even though you said "Nope the Bible never says that. More man-made myth." and " My understanding is that God is our father and no adoption would be necessary and I can't seem to find the word "adoption" in the Bible, so please enlighten me." So, consider yourself enlightened!!

JB - Galatians 4:4-6; Ephesians 1:4-6; Romans 8:14-16; Romans 8:23; Romans 9:3-5

lol prophet, he does seem to get rather repetitious at times. He also admitted some time ago that he really only comes here to get our goat. I think he must be easily amused! But even he knows what he said down below is a fallacy.