Maine Voters Repeal Gay Marriage Law

Gumbi »

Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:34 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

Garageguy: For Rae not to condemn and warn against sin would be hatred. Rae is doing the most loving thing that she can by speaking God's truth. Rae is not judging anyone, just warning of the holy judgments of God which will fall on all.
Rae: Thanks for speaking truth. After a while, arguing with some of the people on this board is like casting pearls before swine.

New Effort to Redefine Marriage in Calif. Takes 1st Step

Gumbi »

Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

believer said:
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As for your statement that homosexuality is not about behavior, the reality is that the sins of homosexuality are all about behavior. If a person considers themself to be a homosexual but does not participate either physically, mentally, or emotionally in the romantic or sexual practices of homosexuality then that person does not sin in the sight of God.
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Question: What do you call a person who "does not participate either physically, mentally, or emotionally in the romantic or sexual practices of homosexuality"?

Answer: Heterosexual ;)

New Marriage Ad Campaign Highlights Miss California

Gumbi »

Fri May 01, 2009 8:31 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

For what it's worth, I only flagged some of Montimo's posts.

New Marriage Ad Campaign Highlights Miss California

Gumbi »

Fri May 01, 2009 8:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Flagged as inappropriate. show Montimo had nothing of value to add to the conversation, just abusive language, cursings, racist comments, and hate. If he would like to discuss the topic without spewing hate and abuse, he is more than welcome to do so. Otherwise, I will be happy to keep flagging him. :) hide

New Marriage Ad Campaign Highlights Miss California

Gumbi »

Fri May 01, 2009 8:12 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Flagged as inappropriate. show It was me! :) I flagged montimo. I followed the instructions at the bottom of the screen that say: "Please help us to monitor our message boards by flagging abusive, spam, offensive, illegal, racist or libelous posts." hide

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

The top part of my post was a quote from Mickey, but under the ------------ dashes is all my argument.

Sorry for the confusion!

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

FSNL - I said it, not Mickey!

"I can point out a huge hole in your reasoning."

I wish we had more options like italics and bold print. That way, it would be easier to copy and paste and know who is saying what when you break down an argument.

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

MickeyC »
Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:59 pm
Could you tell me how you KNOW who I am attracted to?
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You mentioned loving your "partner" earlier in this thread.

If you don't want me to make incorrect assumptions, maybe you should tell me plainly.

Are you attracted to a member of the same sex? Are you a homosexual?

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:00 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Everyone struggles with different sins.
I don't struggle with homosexuality. I'm not tempted by it in the least.
Some Christians are tempted by it, big time. They are able to overcome the temptations by the power of Christ. They have yielded their bodies a living sacrifice unto God (Romans 12:1) and have their minds transformed and renewed by God. But like Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, they are able to say "I was such a person, but now I have been washed, sanctified, and justified by God." They are no longer homosexuals, but children of God! They have been cleansed of their sin.

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

MickeyC »
Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:29 pm
""Then was your heterosexuality a choice?"

Yup "

Then to make that choice, you had to have two or more equal options to choose from. That would mean that you were equally attracted to both men and women and CHOSE which one you wanted. That makes you bisexual. Bisexuals indeed DO have a choice. Thanks for clearing up your sexuality for everyone.
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There ya go again, making something simple into something complicated.

A bisexual is a person sexually responsive to both sexes.
I am not bisexual. Never have chosen to be bisexual.

I can point out a huge hole in your reasoning. The options don't have to be equal for me to make a choice. I am not even tempted to be a homosexual or a bisexual. But I still have that choice to be bisexual if I want to (even though that choice would mean disobeying God's Word).

I am not tempted to rob a bank, either. But I still have that choice: to rob a bank or not to rob a bank.

Some people ARE tempted to rob banks, however. They are far more likely to rob banks than I am, but THEY STILL HAVE A CHOICE OF WHETHER TO ROB A BANK OR NOT TO ROB A BANK.

Some people are tempted to be attracted to members of the same sex. THEY STILL HAVE A CHOICE OF WHETHER THEY WILL OR NOT!

God set a choice up for Adam and Eve. Eat the fruit or don't eat the fruit. These weren't equal options. One resulted in spiritual death, seperation from God, suffering and pain, and ultimately, physical death. Maybe for a long time they weren't even tempted to eat the fruit. THEY STILL HAD A CHOICE! For a long time, they continued to make the right choice and obey God. Adam and Eve enjoyed the good consequences of their good choice. They had God's favor, they walked with Him and talked with Him face to face!

But consequences also came when they made the choice to disobey God.

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

Everyone has a choice on the matter.
Obey God
or
Disobey God.

I choose to obey God and be attracted to members of the opposite sex
You choose to disobey God and be attracted to members of the same sex.

ya know, it really isn't that complicated or confusing...

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

MickeyC »
Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:05 pm

"Then was your heterosexuality a choice?"

Yup

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

forsaltnlight »
Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:53 am
I think there is a point we dust our feet when they won't listen and move on to another house
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Jesus said in Matthew 7:6 not to cast our pearls before swine or give that which is holy to the dogs.

HIV-AIDS Rates Higher in D.C. Than West Africa

Gumbi »

Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:24 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

rusty.boy »

The idea that AIDS is the curse of the homosexual, as implied by some in this post, is almost as repulsive as the mormon belief that black skin is the mark of sinners.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH A CURSE AS IT IS THE CONSEQUECE OF IMMORAL ACTIONS. GOD ALLOWS US TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR ACTIONS SO THAT WE CAN LEARN TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. IF YOU HIT YOUR THUMB WITH A HAMMER, IT WILL HURT. IF YOU HAVE SEX OUTSIDE OF GOD'S BOUNDARIES (WITHIN MARRIAGE BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE), YOU TAKE A CHANCE OF CONTRACTING AIDS AND OTHER STD'S.

AIDS is a tragedy, just as any other ailment is a tragedy.

I AM SURE THAT IT ISN'T PLEASANT, BUT UNLIKE OTHER AILMENTS, IT IS COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE!

If we are going to say AIDS is the curse or punishment of homosexuals, then what is our explanation for children with downs syndrome? or for children born with a physical defect? or for the bird flu? or even the common cold?

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HOMOSEXUALS CHOOSE TO LIVE A SINFUL LIFESTYLE, WHILE IT IS BEYOND THE CONTROL OF THOSE WHO HAVE DOWNS SYNDROME OR OTHER PHYSICAL DEFECTS. HEAVEN IS OPEN TO THOSE WHO ARE BORN WITH PHYSICAL DEFECTS, BUT IS CLOSED TO HOMOSEXUALS - 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9

And why is there no curse for adulterers? Or for murderers? Or for rapists?

THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM, TOO. ADULTERERS RISK GETTING STD'S OR MAY BECOME PREGNANT. MURDERS AND RAPIST FACE PUNISHMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT IN THE FORM OF INCARCERATION OR CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. THEY LIVE IN FEAR THAT SOMEONE WILL TAKE RETRIBUTION.

It is just unjust. Do we really believe in an unjust God?

GOD DECIDES WHAT IS FAIR AND UNFAIR. JUST A PIECE OF ADVICE, WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD ON JUDGMENT DAY, DON'T ASK FOR JUSTICE. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SAY THAT IT IS UNJUST? GOD COULD HAVE STRUCK US DEAD THE FIRST TIME WE SINNED AND HE WOULD BE COMPLETELY JUST IN DOING SO!

Vermonters Debate Gay Marriage Bill

Gumbi »

Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

FSNL, Romans 1 says that God gave them over to their vile passions.
God disciplines His children when they sin. God does not discipline the children of the devil, but has given them over to their uncleanness and is waiting for the day of judgment to show His wrath.

Mickey thinks that since God isn't disciplining him for his sinful behavior, God must approve of it. He doesn't realize that God has given him over to his unclean passions and won't discipline a child of Satan.

Presbyterian Pastor Fears Denomination is Compromising Witness

Gumbi »

Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

[my position is that we see what is of the spirit thru the spirit thru faith in christ and his grace, because the spirit speaks directly to our souls. if we refuse to receive anything other that comes thru our human understanding we negate faith,and the relationship with the one who lives in us and limit what we are able to receive.] Feet

I looked for this verse in the Bible, but couldn't find it. I think you are making this stuff up as you go.

The Spirit of God, having moved the men who wrote the Scriptures, is not going to turn His back on what He authored 2,000 years ago, and then reveal to you that being gay is fine.
He does not change His mind.
Therefore, I can only conclude that you are listening to other spirits without bothering to see if they are evil (1 John 4:1)
Out of concern for you, I admonish you to turn from sin to God. Repent, forsake sin, live a life worth of the calling by which you were called!

Presbyterian Pastor Fears Denomination is Compromising Witness

Gumbi »

Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Gay couples sounds like the fruit of the flesh (Galatians 5:19) rather than the fruit of the Spirit of God.

And this is going on in your church? I think you should be dealing with it. (See 1 Corinthians 5 for help)

Presbyterian Pastor Fears Denomination is Compromising Witness

Gumbi »

Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Are you sure its not the spirit of rebellion against God?

Presbyterian Pastor Fears Denomination is Compromising Witness

Gumbi »

Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:46 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Homosexual couples seems to fall much better under the fruits of the flesh (Galatians 5:19).

All sexual activity outside of marriage between one man and one woman is sin.

It doesn't matter how "committed" a couple is, if it is outside of marriage, it is sin.

So, it sounds like your church should be dealing with sexual sins within the church. See 1 Corinthians 5 for instructions of what to do.

Presbyterian Pastor Fears Denomination is Compromising Witness

Gumbi »

Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:27 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

[the reason for the "yes" vote was because those voting that way, had witnessed committed believing gay relationships married or otherwise were filled with the fruit of the spirit in the same way as believing heterosexual marriages.] - Feet

The fruit of WHICH spirit?