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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
John 10 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent int...more
John 10
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?less
SolaScriptura - Actually, if you've read the scripture, you would find that God created worlds, not just one planet - "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" (Heb. 11:3).
2 Peter 1: 3-4 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Galatians 4:7 - "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ." Romans 8:17 - "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."
Yes, the best way to learn about another faith is to ask one who has been excommunicated from it, and is now an apostate. They will give you the clear-cut truthful answers. Actually, that would be tantamount to asking the critics and enemies of the Church, which Krister Stendahl has noted is as good as "bearing false witness."
danieljacob76 - again I disagree. Mormons DO know what Mormonism teaches. There is no difference there than saying that we know our beliefs and doctrines. What we can all agree on is the simple statement that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of all, that He made Himself a sacrifice for our sin. If you want to then delve into the deeper significance of those statements, then EVERY church i...more
danieljacob76 - again I disagree. Mormons DO know what Mormonism teaches. There is no difference there than saying that we know our beliefs and doctrines.
What we can all agree on is the simple statement that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of all, that He made Himself a sacrifice for our sin. If you want to then delve into the deeper significance of those statements, then EVERY church is going to have their own views.less
seedplanter - then how do you explain Huckabee's comment that he doesn't know much about the Mormons? "I think it's a religion...I really don't know much about it." This is a flat out lie. This is coming from a man that personally visited Salt Lake City in 1998 for a Southern Baptist Conference in which they came specifically to proselytize the Mormons by going d...more
seedplanter - then how do you explain Huckabee's comment that he doesn't know much about the Mormons? "I think it's a religion...I really don't know much about it." This is a flat out lie.
This is coming from a man that personally visited Salt Lake City in 1998 for a Southern Baptist Conference in which they came specifically to proselytize the Mormons by going door to door distributing literature telling the Mormons that they were going to Hell. Huckabee gave a speech in Salt Lake City as one of the leaders of the SBC. He has a degree in theology. Did he miss the class on Mormonism? Saying that he doesn't really know much about the Mormons that he "thinks" is a religion, is a lie. Is Huckabee credible?less
truthandjustice1 - And it scares me that it doesn't make sense to you. The only thing that Jesus told those in the Old World about the New is that he had "other sheep" which were not of this fold (not of the Old World), and that He must also gather them in. Those in the Old World did not know about those people in the New. They would have been very confused if Christ had qu...more
truthandjustice1 -
And it scares me that it doesn't make sense to you.
The only thing that Jesus told those in the Old World about the New is that he had "other sheep" which were not of this fold (not of the Old World), and that He must also gather them in. Those in the Old World did not know about those people in the New. They would have been very confused if Christ had quoted from the prophets in the New World, because they did not know they existed.
Christ Himself explained this to the people in the New World: (3 Nephi 15:13-24)
"13 And behold, this is the land of your inheritance; and the Father hath given it unto you.
14 And not at any time hath the Father given me commandment that I should tell it unto your brethren at Jerusalem.
15 Neither at any time hath the Father given me commandment that I should tell unto them concerning the other tribes of the house of Israel, whom the Father hath led away out of the land.
16 This much did the Father command me, that I should tell unto them:
17 That other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
18 And now, because of stiffneckedness and unbelief they understood not my word; therefore I was commanded to say no more of the Father concerning this thing unto them.
19 But, verily, I say unto you that the Father hath commanded me, and I tell it unto you, that ye were separated from among them because of their iniquity; therefore it is because of their iniquity that they know not of you.
20 And verily, I say unto you again that the other tribes hath the Father separated from them; and it is because of their iniquity that they know not of them.
21 And verily I say unto you, that ye are they of whom I said: Other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
22 And they understood me not, for they supposed it had been the Gentiles; for they understood not that the Gentiles should be converted through their preaching.
23 And they understood me not that I said they shall hear my voice; and they understood me not that the Gentiles should not at any time hear my voicethat I should not manifest myself unto them save it were by the Holy Ghost.
24 But behold, ye have both heard my voice, and seen me; and ye are my sheep, and ye are numbered among those whom the Father hath given me."less
danieljacob76 - Yes, and 13 million people haven't been persuaded because the attacks of the critics are false. They are not true. And they have not proved Mormonism is false, although they certainly try. Our LDS scholars have addressed their attacks many many times, and have found that the critics arguments have very little to stand on. Indeed, many of the attacks are just plain dece...more
danieljacob76 -
Yes, and 13 million people haven't been persuaded because the attacks of the critics are false. They are not true. And they have not proved Mormonism is false, although they certainly try. Our LDS scholars have addressed their attacks many many times, and have found that the critics arguments have very little to stand on. Indeed, many of the attacks are just plain deceptive, distorted, and lies.
I love this, you say "there is a general ignorance of today's LDS in regards to the history and doctrines of the church they profess to be a part of." Do you mean to suggest that members of the LDS Church do not know their own doctrine? This is almost laughable. Scott Gordon said it well, "It amazes me that some anti-Mormons claim that Mormons don't know their own beliefs and only anti-Mormons know what Mormons 'really' believe. How can we believe something if we don't even know what it is? ... It can't be a belief of the Mormons if the Mormons don't believe it."less