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Hokey's Comments
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The BIG question is "Do the LDS teach that Jesus and the devil (Satan) are brothers?
And the answer is YES!!!
This just in from fairlds.org:
http://en.fairmormon.org/Jesus_Christ_is_the_brother_of_Satan
"Jesus Christ is the brother of Satan"
and the conclusion to this post this LDS website:
"Jesus, Satan, and all humanity share God the Father as their spiritual sire." -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo
Ed Decker, a former Mormon made a video a few years back called "The God Makers". The above link is to a portion of that video. -
Cartoon banned by the Mormon church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo -
Cartoon banned by the Mormon church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo -
Cartoon banned by the Mormon church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo -
Good night and God Bless.
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The gospel of Christ is very simple, it is all about Him. There is NOTHING you can do to earn salvation. All you have to do is open His Gift. There verses below are very clear.
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Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 10:9-11 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."
12"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Ephesians 2:8-9
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Galatians 2:20-21
20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. -
servent, your posts are great, thanks. Keep it up. Mormons aren't going to hear the true until Christians speak the truth.
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? -
Have you reached this place of abhorrence of sin? Doesn't this sound impossible to you yet, Hesadanza?
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Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer Kimball, pp. 354-355
“ What kind of repentance merits forgiveness? Alma 13:11-12 indicates an attitude which is basic to the sanctification we should all be seeking, and thus to the repentance which merits forgiveness, It is that the former transgressor must have reached a ‘point of no return’ to sin wherein there is not merely a renunciation but also a deep abhorrence of the sin- where the sin becomes most distasteful ti him and where the desire or urge to sin is cleared out of his life.” -
(Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer Kimball’ Ch. 12, pp. 163-165)
An army officer called a soldier to him and ordered him to take a message to another officer. The soldier saluted and said, ‘I’ll try, sir! I’ll try!” to this the officer responded:’ I don’t want you to try, I want you to deliver this message.’ The soldier, somewhat embarrassed, now replied: ‘I’ll do the best I can, sir.’ At this the officer, now disgusted, rejoined with some vigor: ‘I don’t want you to try and I don’t want you to ‘do the best you can.’ I want you to deliver this message.’ Now the young soldier, straightening to his full height, approached the matter magnificently, as he thought, when he saluted again and said: ‘I’ll do it or die, sir.’ To this the now irate officer responded: ‘I don’t want you to die, and I don’t want you to merely do the best you can do, and I don’t want you to try. Now, the request is a reasonable one; the message is important; the distance is not far; you are able-bodied; you can do what you have been ordered. Now get out of here and accomplish your mission.’ It is normal for children to try. They fall and get up numerous times before they can be certain of their footing. But adults who have gone through these learning periods must determine what they will do, then proceed to do it. To ’try’ is weak. To ‘do the best Ican’ is not strong. We must always do better than we can…” -
Abandonment of Sin
Doctrine and Covenants 58:43 “There is one crucial test of repentance. This is abandonment of the sin. Desire is not sufficient. In other words, it is not real repentance until one has abandoned the error of his ways and started a new path… The saving power does not extend to him who merely tries to abandon sin.” -
How many times can you repent?
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Again when is his grace sufficient.
1. After denying ourselves of All ungodliness.
2. After doing ALL we can do.
According to Moroni 10:32 and 2 Nephi 25:23.
As an example: If you tell your children, "You may have dessert AFTER you finish your vegetables," when do they get dessert?
So God's grace doesn't come until AFTER All we can do and AFTER denying ourselves of all ungodliness.
"Abandonment of Sin: The forsaking of sin must be a permanent one. True repentance does not permit making the same mistake again." (LDS pamphlet, "Repentance Brings Forgiveness.") -
"2. There are no sins that God allows. If we want to sin, we have our agency to do so, if we so please. But He does not condone it. And He commands us to repent if we do sin, and he will forgive us."
"Forsake the sin and not REPEAT it."
Doesn't that mean that you can't commit the same sin more than once and still expect his grace to be sufficient? -
"Forsake the sin and not REPEAT it."
"Live all the commandments of the Lord."
Sounds like you only get one time to repent. -
Five Steps to True Repentance by LDS prophet Spencer W. Kimball “…remember that to obtain forgiveness from the Lord and his church one must: 1) Realize the seriousness of the sin and pray in great humility ans sorrow. 2) Forsake the sin and not repeat it. 3) Confess the sin to the bishop or other church authority . 4) Restore as far as possible that which was damaged. 5) Live all the commandments of the Lord. (LDS pamphlet, “Repentance brings Forgiveness”.)
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But you have told me you are not doing so yourself. So is his grace sufficient for you? Not according to Moroni 10:32 and Nephi 25:23.
Doctrine and Covenants 1:31-33 “For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance; Nevertheless, he that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven; And he that repents not, from him shall be taken even the light which he has received; for my Spirit shall not always strive with man, saith the Lord of Hosts.”
Hesadanza
1. What does it mean when it says, "I cannot look upon sin in the least degree of allowance?
2. What sins will He allow? -
servent,
I don't type, I hunt and pick, might I suggest posting on one of these and come back later and post them here.
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071125/30217_Sidebar:_The_Bible_vs._Mormon_Beliefs.htm
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071204/30330_Romney_to_Gamble_Votes_with_Mormon_Speech.htm
Thanks for your help.
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