believer Where I live in Oklahoma, its baptist country, and most of them are of the ardent republican type, but when you get a round alot them, say at a social, I have never so many different opinions in my life. I do hear alot about the baptist faith and message of 2000 or the newer one, that alot of them don't like.

16 million southern baptist = 16 million different opinions

Now Hagee can back to the all you can eat buffet.

believer "but everything to do with greed and selfishness, in other words sin" you hit the nail on the head, Greedy Old Party or GOP!

We should be handing birth control like candy, with all the children in africa and india starving, let alone all the kids that are passed around from foster home to foster home, this should be a no brainer, the democrats are right and Bush like he always does is trying to create a wedge issue. If all the republican gave a rats tail about children, then Bush and the republicans would have not vet...more

We should be handing birth control like candy, with all the children in africa and india starving, let alone all the kids that are passed around from foster home to foster home, this should be a no brainer, the democrats are right and Bush like he always does is trying to create a wedge issue. If all the republican gave a rats tail about children, then Bush and the republicans would have not vetoed the CHIPS program increase!less

believer For the record, Bush wore Jesus on his sleeve during the 2000 campaign. And it worked for him.

I have high regard for the Grahams, Billy et al, [his nephew officaited my wedding], but the like of Robertson, Hagee, Parsley have just made review my entire faith. I went to a evangelical university, and I know I am hard on evangelicals, but I do have a soft side for all christians, just not the rabid right wing neanderthal hate filled bible thumping crowd that says if you don't agree with...more

I have high regard for the Grahams, Billy et al, [his nephew officaited my wedding], but the like of Robertson, Hagee, Parsley have just made review my entire faith. I went to a evangelical university, and I know I am hard on evangelicals, but I do have a soft side for all christians, just not the rabid right wing neanderthal hate filled bible thumping crowd that says if you don't agree with them your on the slip and slide to hell. This crowd made their bed with the republican party,[my party til 06] and frankly they are destroying the country. I just finally woke up.less

believer If it were not for evangelicals bush could have never been president, the fact that so many "evangelicals" are not fessing up to it has alot to do with the feeling that bush let them down coupled that with all the teleevangelist Copeland, Hinn, Hagee etc making complete @$$es of themselves has people heading for the exits.

Evangelicals from what I have seen make up 23%-30% of the Christian population, so either people are too embarased to admit they are after 8 years of one of their own in the White House, or the tele evangelist crowd has people heading for the exits.

Thing only thing I will say is that the Republicans controlled the white house, congress til 06, and the supreme court, and we still have abortion.

For the record, people confuse republican with evangelicals, when you have preachers telling people that they cannot be a christian and a democrat, it tends to PO people. The problem with evangelicals is that they made their bed with a bunch of country club republicans who used them to get their financial agendas through. Wealthy republican would no sooner spit on most evangelicals than look at ...more

For the record, people confuse republican with evangelicals, when you have preachers telling people that they cannot be a christian and a democrat, it tends to PO people. The problem with evangelicals is that they made their bed with a bunch of country club republicans who used them to get their financial agendas through. Wealthy republican would no sooner spit on most evangelicals than look at them, but they needed them so they put with them.less

scientist3 Again there has been no oversite except for enviromental oversite on the oil companies, they can drill where ever they want otherwise. In 2001 Bush et al took out the oversite of the speculators in the industry and congress is passing laws to get it back...this is fact check it out. Also as far as jobs the median income in this country is almost where it was in 2001, the mid...more

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Again there has been no oversite except for enviromental oversite on the oil companies, they can drill where ever they want otherwise. In 2001 Bush et al took out the oversite of the speculators in the industry and congress is passing laws to get it back...this is fact check it out.


Also as far as jobs the median income in this country is almost where it was in 2001, the middle class has gotten the shaft since Bush has been in office, as far as the jobs created they are lower wage service except for some technolgy and healthcare jobs. Your right wing economics rewards American companies for sending jobs over seas and has been a boon for corporate america, but devastating to middle class. But that's OK, November is coming!!!!!!!1less

Focus on the Family is having financial trouble right now, so this does not surprise me, the whole Obama thing was nothing more than to raise money for his organzation. Dobson who built his "christian" empire on the back Jesus is showing the signs of a aging out of touch organzation.

Good for Warren, this is the kind of balanced approach that churches need.

Oh you can bet the chop sticks are flying in the presidential palace in North Korea now!!!

"George Bush has a very compelling personal story, a very compelling religious experience and in their hearts they believed he was a man who loved the same Lord they did," said Zylstra" The only thing Bush did was wear Jesus on his sleeve to geta bunch of right wing bible thumping greedy morons to vote for him, then he proceeded to drag the country through the mud!!!!!!!!!!

Mike2685 I agree with you. Republicans are caught between reality and their idealogy, some of them don't know whether get a 80 proof drink or wake up and smell the coffee.

MAYBE THE BISHOP GENE ROBINSON WILL SHOW UP IN HIS NEW PUMPS AND MATCHING BISHOP'S MITER!!!!

Well this gives the happy meal a whole different meaning now.

This is part of why we are in Iraq, which was the dumbest thing we have done as a country. If we follow the "right wing bible thumping give me tax cuts and send everyones elses kid to war crowd to hold up my beleifs" we would invade every country that makes us mad for offends our devout christian attitude. Thank God that Bush and neo cons are almost out of office!!!!!!!!!