'Expelled' Filmmakers Claim 'Over the Top' Success

JoeyRamone63 »

Wed May 07, 2008 12:32 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

ID is not science. Science starts with observations, hypotheses, and then seeks to substantiate the hypotheses with testable scenarios, predictions, and falsifiability.

Creationists have been trying for decades to get public schools and universities to give "equal time" to creationism. The most recent tact is to dress it up as "intelligent design" and it was shot down at the Dover trial when it was proven (by a Christian biologist, Ken Miller) to be nothing more than creationism without a direct reference to "god". In fact, the intelligent design manifesto "Of Pandas and People" was originally written with direct references to God, and then edited to replace God with Intelligent Designer; this evidence was also presented in the Dover trial.

Moreover, the "persecuted scientists" who were presented in Expelled have all been debunked. One of them completely side-stepped the peer review process in order to get his ID paper published! Another was an unpaid volunteer. More details can be found at expelledexposed.com.

Stein's movie purports to be about academic freedom; but it fallaciously equates evolution with eugenics and implies that atheism leads to atrocity, which couldn't be further from the truth. Expelled is the worst example of misinformation, outright lies, and pandering propaganda.

It's 1984 in the Academy

JoeyRamone63 »

Wed May 07, 2008 12:28 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 6

ID is not good science. Science starts with observations, hypotheses, and then seeks to substantiate the hypotheses with testable scenarios, predictions, and falsifiability.

Creationists have been trying for decades to get public schools and universities to give "equal time" to creationism. The most recent tact is to dress it up as "intelligent design" and it was shot down at the Dover trial when it was proven (by a Christian biologist, Ken Miller) to be nothing more than creationism without a direct reference to "god". In fact, the intelligent design manifesto "Of Pandas and People" was originally written with direct references to God, and then edited to replace God with Intelligent Designer; this evidence was also presented in the Dover trial.

Moreover, the "persecuted scientists" who were presented in Expelled have all been debunked. One of them completely side-stepped the peer review process in order to get his ID paper published! Another was an unpaid volunteer. More details can be found at expelledexposed.com.

Stein's movie purports to be about academic freedom; but it fallaciously equates evolution with eugenics and implies that atheism leads to atrocity, which couldn't be further from the truth. Expelled is the worst example of misinformation, outright lies, and pandering propaganda.