Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

agentorganex, viking, I didn't expect accolades for my book from believers in evolution, be they Christian or not. But I do suggest reading the whole book before judging it. For example, I do cover archeopteryx in the book, as you would know if you had read it all. Not that I expect it to change your minds (the evolution delusion is a very hard one to break because it is so culturally ingrained in our time), but reading it all would give you both a less delusional perspective on the subject, as well as helping you to not write misinformative comments on it. Not that I expect that to change in any case, at least not in the short term. But I will be praying. KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Hi viking,

That is a good question. I was a theistic evolutionist for a number of years after I became a Christian, as I was carrying evolutionist baggage from my previous life as an evolutionist atheist, which is what I was raised as. But to answer your question, (I don't know if you are a Christian or not), I would suggest you get hold of my book "The Evolution Delusion" (just Google it to find where to get it) because I reject theistic evolution on the same basis that I reject atheistic evolution, namely on the basis of the mountain of scientific evidence and logic that refutes the various current theories of evolution (i.e. classic Darwinian, gradualist neo-Darwinian, punctuated equilibrium and hopeful monster evolution, all of which claim to be the true evolution and deny the validity of the others). But I can't rewrite my whole book here. I have a lot of "irons in the fire", so to speak, and I just don't have the time to go into it all here. But if you want to know, just get my book, and I would also recommend a book by Mike Oard entitled "Flood by Design" that you can get from icr.org, I think, and it is an excellent book on the geomorphological (i.e. landscapes of the earth) evidence for a recent global flood which explains the current surface configuration of the Earth including the billions of fossils in sedimentary rock all over the earth today. Also get a book called "In the Beginning" by Walt Brown or Google "Hyroplate theory" (without the quotation marks) to get the author's website, because his book is on it. Once you understand that this flood did happen and that there is overwhelming scientific evidence for it, you will see through evolution like X-rays see through flesh. Well, gotta go for now, I hope you get these books and get past theistic evolution as I did a few years ago. Best wishes, KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Hi Forgivensinner,

Thanks for the greeting, I hope you had a good Christmas too. I had a quiet, Christian Christmas. I have given up completely on the pagan Christmas (Santa Claus, elves, Boxing Day madness etc.) Christmas for me is about God's Son Jesus Christ coming into the world to save sinners. I actually don't think it happened in December (I believe it got rolled into a pagan Roman holiday long ago), but I do try to devote December 25 in any case to the Lord. KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Evolutionists who accuse creationist Christians of believing in magic have it backwards. Christians see a universe and biological life brimming over with sophisticated design and logically conclude that there is a Master Designer behind it, that it didn't just happen. Evolutionists, on the othr hand, believer it did just happen. Such sublime design as the universe and biological life exhibit without a Designer equals magic.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Thank you, forgivensinner (as am I), very much appreciated. I'll keep that in mind when I pass this way again, which may be a while. Lot of irons in the fire. Best wishes, KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

And kind regards to you also, Steve. Nice to be able to chat in civility with you. Have a great rest of the day and a great life. KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

So I hope that answers your question Steve, but if not, please let me know and I'll give it another shot. Nice chatting, have a nice day. KL :)

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Actually, the more such comments I read, the more I feel that creation is on very safe intellectual ground compared to evolution.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

As well as a lot of gratuitous personal insults, as you will notice if you read some of the evolutionist comments on this article.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

This must be terribly frustrating for them, which I suppose is why some of them end up resorting to gratuitous character attacks on their intellectual opponents.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

So their claim that evolution is a proven scientific fact is just so much bluster to hide the fact that they have no clue how their own theory is supposed to explain life.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

The fact is that they can't explain how it would happen without intelligent input and they have no clue how it did supposedly happen.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Or for that matter, even for simple biological molecules to do the same with no intelligent input.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

But essentially, Scienceyy fails to see the very extensive "maigc" required for simple non-biological molecules to self-oganize into a very complex reproducing cell.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Unfortunately, to do justice to your question, I need about three minutes minimum, so I'll try again later. KL

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Okay, got that one posted because it was so short. I get dumped about a minute after I start writing.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

HI Steve, I've been trying to reply but keep getting dumped before I can post. IF I can get this posted, perhaps the webmaster can advise me of the problem.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:20 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Unless all religious origins beliefs are allowed to be taught in public schools either as science (as is the case now with evolutionism, which is a religious origins belief) or in some other designation, none should be allowed, including evolutionism. There is no debate among evolutionist scientists as to the validity of their religious origins beliefs being science and truth, but the truth is that there is a great deal of debate among scientists as a whole over this question, as anyone involved in this ongoing debate knows. The situation now is that one religious origins belief system (evolutionism)has won the favor of the authorities who decide these matters bydressing up their belief in scientific jargon and passing it off as science. Thus, they have been able to establish a tyranny of exclusivity by law for the teaching of their religious belief in the public schools. Christians need to challenge this in every possible forum or else watch as their children are indoctrinated in a pagan religious belief that goes back thousands of years.

Biola to Feature Leading Christian Apologist, 'Godfather' of Intelligent Design

KennethLawrence »

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:07 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

"No real scientist uses magic to sovle scientific problems". Really? How about evolutionist scientists, the ones who have given us evolution magic? You know, the kind of magic "science" that claims it's a fact that life evolved from non-living molecules without being able to even offer a detailed scientific explanation for the origin of the first DNA molecule or almost any other biological molecule above the level of a simple amino acid, or produce a DNA molecule from scratch in the lab? Some "powerful evidence" from molecular biology for the "strongest facts of science". As I point out in my new book "The Evolution Delusion", the truth is that evolutionists really have nothing more than a religious origins belief dressed up in some bad science, pseudoscience, and fraudulent science. It's all bluster, no real science. What they are teaching students in America is religion, not science. It's time Chistians challenged this teaching of religion in public schools.