Haggard Ends Restoration Process with Overseers

Knight4God »

Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

The issue is not "did God make me that way" or "is it a choice". Sin is ultimately a corruption before it is an act. People who are homosexual are driven to it because the order that God made in creation has been corrupted due to sin. They then choose to follow their natural desire to do evil.

Of course everyone is corrupt, and everyone has some set of sins that they must fight, and let God work on them to change. It's not "unfair" because it is the same for anyone with a compulsive sin nature, we must all control ourselves.

Besides, God is just, which may or may not mean "fair" in the modern enlightenment sense of the word. God judges our standards, we don’t question his, (although Job tried and got rebuked for it, "who are you, oh man?") If he has declared that homosexuality is a corruption of nature, then who are we to argue? We wouldn’t know what "natural" was by his definition, as we only see the world in its corrupt form.

But hypothetically, if God were to come down from Heaven (again) and declare the homosexual community to be wrong. Would they repent? If "yes", then good, the issue is admitted to be not over equality, or fairness, or individual freedom, but over interpreting what God's ethical standards are. If "no", then is there really anything to discuss? If someone says they will stick to their rights and freedoms even if God says it is wrong, then there is really nothing to say to them, they have followed rebellion to its logical conclusion. Which is ultimately the same ideas of freedom from the rule of God the king that drove Satan to rebel.

More Evangelicals Value Lent Disciplines

Knight4God »

Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:43 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

Ash Wednesday is not "un-protestant". Lutherans and Anglicans have always done it. In fact "Evangelicals" do believe in using ritual and the Christ's presence in the Eucharist, and robed clergy, if they are Lutheran or even Anglican. And Lutherans were the first Evangelicals.

There are good reasons to participate in Ash Wednesday regardless if the Catholics do it. In fact, unless you follow the regulative principle which is only part of the Calvinist Tradition, it really doesn't matter if the Catholics do something, if it is a good thing, it can be adopted.