Presbyterians Called to Face the Facts, Change

Mr. C »

Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:54 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

May God be with us all, always. Nothing happens that he is not aware of or allows to happen. Remember that he wants us to ask for his help and guidance, and not think we can take care of problems on our own. This is a big problem that we should gladly turn over to him for his intervention.

Presbyterians Called to Face the Facts, Change

Mr. C »

Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:58 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

There is always going to be good and evil till Christ returns for his church. Evil is entering the churches as false teachers and people will be mislead, confused and congregations will be lost. People are leaving the church because of other issues, not the gay clergy issue. Approving this will not return people to the churches. The PCUSA and GA are out of touch with the people on the congregation level. How about asking us what we want to do instead of telling us what you are going to do. How about some bottom up management skills?? We are part of the church also. Our prayers are for faith and leadership of this great church. Show us that our prayers are being heard.

PCUSA Assembly Approves Deleting Gay Clergy Ban

Mr. C »

Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:51 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Ok, let's make this as simple as posssible. Homosexuals should have there own churches, and not destroy what is already in place. I would not try and make changes in their home, why come into mine??Homosexuality is a sin. Sin separates us from God. right?
We are either of the Father's world or man's world, right? I don't want a minister ordained or otherwise leading me and my family as long as he is separated from God because of his or her's sins. It could be homosexuality, sexual affairs, embezzlement or a list of other possible sins. God is my Savior and Father in Heaven. A minister leads God's flock on earth, but they can't do a good job if they are separated from God in sin. How hard is this to figure out people. First you get a lost minister, then the flock becomes confused and lost and a church is gone forever. My family will leave the presbytery if they approve this later in the year. Thanks and God Bless.

PCUSA Gay Clergy Decision Changes Nothing, Scholar Says

Mr. C »

Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:31 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 0

All I can say is, :all of you at the GA who approved this,"DO NOT LOOK BACK, YOU MAY BE TURNED INTO A PILLAR OF SALT" Why can't the gay "christians" create their own Presbyterian churches instead of destroying the ones already in place. The Bible warns us of false teachers and preachers, and it is our own fault if we follow them, because we have been warned they were coming to destroy God's churches. It's not just the Presbyterian churches. They are trying to infest all faiths and congregations, by calling us non christian because we don't accept them as leaders of our faith. We are to accept and love them as sinners;nothing more. They are not better than us and we are not better than them. We are equal in God's eyes, but a minister is held to a higher standard and not everyone qualifies for the title, even those with theological degrees must be diligently approved to serve God's church and God's people.Now anybody can profess to be a minister. If our Presbytery approves this, my family will have to leave the church. People are not leaving the Presbyterian church because of this reason. The GA needs to wake up!!It's your churches and programs that are outdated!!Thank You and God Bless.