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  • Rick Warren to Muslims: Talk is Cheap, Let's Work Together

    Muslima »
    Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Until you understand to study and tolerate other religions and people, you will never be of a true faith. Thank you for providing me with further proof.

    We also believe in Jesus as a Prophet, and therefore do not mock him in anyway. Your mockery of our last Prophet is just ignorant. He was neither a druggie nor a pedophile. This is exactly why people try to make peace talks and the likes of persons such as yourself make it harder to deal with.

  • Rick Warren to Muslims: Talk is Cheap, Let's Work Together

    Muslima »
    Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:53 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Warren told them to not compromise their convictions such as these quotes from the Qur"an: "Those who believe that Allah has a son must be admonished since this is a monstrous blasphemy and falsehood (18:4-6). Allah has never begotten a son and there are no deities beside him (23:91). Jews say that Ezra is the son of Allah while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. May Allah destroy them. They are both perverted. They worship rabbis, monks and the Messiah, the son of Mary, as Lords besides Allah in opposition to the monotheistic command given them (9:30, 31)."

    All the above is a direct contradiction of the central tenets of the Christian faith. Jesus is God and the Son of the Living God. And, Jesus died on the cross to take away the sins of the world, including the sins of muslims. That is the message we should be taking to the muslims who are lost in their sins"


    I will just speak on behalf of Islam as I don't see any other Muslims trying to defend themselves here.

    I honestly believe this is the problem with those who do not understand Islam. The majority of those who are not Muslim, seem to like to take many of our passages and use them out of context. If anything, I have read the entire Qur'an and do not even recall these verses.

    The problem here, is even with Islamic extremists, I can compare them to non-Muslims who do take certain passages and use them for their own benefit, when in actuality that is not allowed. One can read one passage and say "Oh Muslims are taught to destroy everyone".. but if you take the time to read everything else around it, we are taught more to respect other religions and not to cause harm to others.

    Looking at the historical view, the Qur'an was written in a span of 23 years, that which was during time of war and change. You can conclude from that that the Qur'an for much of the passages was written directly for our prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who needed God's guidance at that time. Much of these war passages do not apply to today unless a war is brought upon a people.

    The media portrays all Muslims as bomb-strapping, blood thirsty people who kill without reason. I cannot make it clear enough that if you want to know about Islam, you do NOT look at Muslims, you read our scriptures. Extremists take the passages of the Qur'an that were applied at the time of our last Prophet and use them now. That is not what it was intended for.

    We are taught to love and respect others, even of other religions and races. Even during the time of when our Prophet first revealed himself, his followers went and took refuge in the kingdom of the Christians and were welcomed with open arms. Please do not take ignorance as your keeper. Humans always tend to be afraid of what they do not understand.

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