China Cracks Down on Christians during Christmas Week

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

The Christian Post talks about persecution in China against Christians but then removes one of its articles written by a Christian because the Christian happens to be a Mormon...very interesting...

Romney Defends Traditional Marriage with Scripture

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

So Glen, what am I supposed to take away from this? That all Mormons are the Devil and that Huckabee is God's chosen? Sure sounds like it...

Iranian President's Christmas Message Sparks Outcry

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

TYPO: "THE backwards ninny". As a scientist myself, let me say that anyone who denies the holocaust is not only a backwards ninny, but dangerous...

Iranian President's Christmas Message Sparks Outcry

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:46 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Channel 4 says Abby-dumb-jab is "enormously influential". I say that he is such only to those who believe him and listen to backwards ninny.

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

Wally, your comment is partially true (the first part), but the second part, where you say that Mormons believe their Jesus is better than the Christian Jesus is false. It's a sad lie, because in fact, we say that we worship the same Jesus as the Christian world; though we do say that we just might know him better... Is that prideful? It definitely COULD be, but only if we're wrong. Come and see for yourselves- don't let Dr. Mohler control your mind and decisions- act for yourself- your mind is free and able to discern truth from error if you can eliminate fear and think for yourself; and, when it comes to thinking for yourself, there is no more important topic in all the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPQR4UlXqs

Focus on the Family Pulls Interview with Mormon Author

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

I guess my last post didn't actually post. Give these a minute to load; these are responses from one of the leaders of the Mormon Church on this topic. Orson Scott Card does a pretty good job, but this message is crystal clear- if you watch these, you'll understand what Mormons believe and then can decide for yourself about whether we are "Christians" or not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPQR4UlXqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEuvNbyBQow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brCtfsq2gx4&feature=related

Focus on the Family Pulls Interview with Mormon Author

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

From a current Mormon Apostle (Jeffry R. Holland) on this topic:

It is not our purpose to demean any person’s belief nor the doctrine of any religion. We extend to all the same respect for their doctrine that we are asking for ours. (That, too, is an article of our faith.) But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first Christian Saints, many of whom were eyewitnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?7
We declare it is self-evident from the scriptures that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are separate persons, three divine beings, noting such unequivocal illustrations as the Savior’s great Intercessory Prayer just mentioned, His baptism at the hands of John, the experience on the Mount of Transfiguration, and the martyrdom of Stephen—to name just four.
With these New Testament sources and more8 ringing in our ears, it may be redundant to ask what Jesus meant when He said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do.”9 On another occasion He said, “I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.”10 Of His antagonists He said, “[They have] . . . seen and hated both me and my Father.”11 And there is, of course, that always deferential subordination to His Father that had Jesus say, “Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.”12 “My father is greater than I.”13
To whom was Jesus pleading so fervently all those years, including in such anguished cries as “O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me”14 and “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me”?15 To acknowledge the scriptural evidence that otherwise perfectly united members of the Godhead are nevertheless separate and distinct beings is not to be guilty of polytheism; it is, rather, part of the great revelation Jesus came to deliver concerning the nature of divine beings. Perhaps the Apostle Paul said it best: “Christ Jesus . . . being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.”16

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:09 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

Dr. Mohler believes he is right and everyone else who reads the Bible differently than him is wrong. But Houston, we have a problem, where did he get HIS authority? His Ph.D.? Authority to speak for God comes directly from God, not from a Theological Seminary. On behalf of all Israel (both Ephraim and Judah) I say: Give us a True Prophet or give us no prophet at all.

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:59 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

Christians should be careful about how they deal with Mormonism. Mormons are leading the charge on many moral issues important to Christians. Before attacking Mormons without understanding them, seek to understand them:

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

We Mormons are labeled a "cult" because:

1) We do not believe in a false sectarian notion about the Trinity which was nothing more than the convenient agreement among admittedly confused men who were trying to keep a Church united in the same way many "Christian" churches are currently trying to remain united today, and

2) We believe that God can and does speak today to all who will qualify themselves to hear His voice and to His Prophets- like He has always done.

If you want to learn about what we believe- don't listen to those who have money to gain by attacking us. Listen to us:

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

What do Mormons believe in? They believe in all the truth possessed by the Christian world and yet they have something to add to that truth:

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Prominent Evangelical Scholar Takes on Mormonism in 'Christian' Debate

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

A LOT of "Priests" are angry at Mormonism and trying to find anything against them that they can? Why? Because these Priests are losing their followers. People want answers from God, not men:

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Americans' Confidence in Religion Waning, Poll Finds

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Focus on the Family Pulls Interview with Mormon Author

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:41 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

What do Mormons believe about Jesus Christ? Ask the Mormons, not the angry priests who are trying to attack Mormonism:


http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

Focus on the Family Pulls Interview with Mormon Author

NachoLibre »

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:38 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 4

The "trinity" as defined in "Christianity" is nothing more than a man-made compromise of opinion (i.e. research the Nicean Creed). On the other hand, Joseph Smith and the Mormons today learned of the truth nature of the Trinity when Joseph saw God and Jesus together- and they were separate beings. Therefore, it all rests on the Character of Joseph Smith- was a he a liar or a true Prophet? If he was a liar, then Mormonism is indeed a cult. But, is there a chance that he wasn't a liar? That he was what he says he was? Though I'm but one voice, it's my witness to the Christian world that Joseph Smith was indeed a true Prophet. Joseph Smith was a weak, uneducated young boy when his prayer was answered about which Church was true: He was confused because, like today, all of the "Christian" churches held different doctrines based on the same bible. The Church restored to the earth by Jesus Christ himself contains all of the truth possessed by the Christian world and then some, and it does NOT contain any false sectarian notions, such as the Trinity as conceptualized by admittedly confused theologians trying to keep a church together. As Mormons, we don't boast or brag about it, but we have been commissioned by the Lord Himself to spread this message and we make great sacrifices to get it out. And, as I said before, it's either true or false. We don't seek to force anyone to see things our way. However, we do plan to declare it to the whole world and give the whole world a chance to listen. It's not a reason to persecute us. Before you do what Paul did before learning the truth of Jesus Christ (he persecuted the Saints), consider learning from his example and researching the facts first- from sources other than Mormonism's enemies. This way, you won't have any regrets. And who are the Mormons' enemies? Well, it seems to be primarily those who are losing money because of the rapid growth of Mormonism that feel most threatened and therefore feel it necessary to attack Mormonism...