DOC-you are raving like an insane person There are far more important things for you to be doing in the name of God than fighting the losing battle of trying to "save" gay people (maybe feeding the poor?) Gay peopel do not want to be saved-we know God, we know He loves us No 2000 year old quotes form teh bible will change what God has told us about our lives silly little man

Squeaks-the bible has not place in our govt-you do know this is a secular govt in this country tright? Education in this country cant be so bad that you missed that!!

Squeakywheel-how is marriage protected by denying marriage rights to people who want to get married? that doesn't make any sense... You do know that marraige in MA was strengthened by allowing gays to marry, right? Divorce rate is the lowest in the country It is very hateful and bigoted to state that someoen else's union is less than your own

It doesn't matter, folks teh courts will decide that gay marraige will be the law of the land- We shouldn't be voting on people's rights anyway.that is extremely UN-AMERICAN what does "swishingly" mean?

GMG-they have never "given us anything" because you and yours have stood in the way. But now that Obama has lifted the silly ban, we will soon see great advancements Please tell me why you would rather have the unused embryonic stem cells thrown away than used for scientific research. Please answer-no one has ever presented a viable reason for throwing away unused embryos rather than use them t...more

GMG-they have never "given us anything" because you and yours have stood in the way. But now that Obama has lifted the silly ban, we will soon see great advancements

Please tell me why you would rather have the unused embryonic stem cells thrown away than used for scientific research. Please answer-no one has ever presented a viable reason for throwing away unused embryos rather than use them to help people...less

Hey NOBIGOTS-I am flattered Jarhead thinsk we're the same :-)

JAR-I said this to you yesterday-please dont categorize beatsility and pedophilia with gay people-it makes you sound like a moron. Again, there is a victim in beastility and children since neither can consent Even though gay makes you feel icky, it dos not involve a victim Im sorry that you didn't know what country you were representing when you were in the military, but the USA is the st...more

JAR-I said this to you yesterday-please dont categorize beatsility and pedophilia with gay people-it makes you sound like a moron.

Again, there is a victim in beastility and children since neither can consent

Even though gay makes you feel icky, it dos not involve a victim

Im sorry that you didn't know what country you were representing when you were in the military, but the USA is the sterling example to the world of equality, fair treatment and civil rights for all. Gays will achive full equality and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it!!

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Jar-I am not NO BIGOT I only post as Norman

I never understood the right to lifers argument on this... the stem cells they fought for were NEVER going to be human beings-tyhey were going to be discarded. I can't wait for medical advancements due to stem cells to take place then see if the right to lifers refuse care...

TLCHILD-I was writing to viking who was being condescending I am not angry at all-just passionate. Honestly, if a whole group of people-millions of them-were telling you that you were going to be burning in hell for showing love to the man you married, wouldn't you be a little passionate? If millions were tryign totake rights away form you, wouldn't you outcry? My passion is my gift-it has a...more

TLCHILD-I was writing to viking who was being condescending

I am not angry at all-just passionate.
Honestly, if a whole group of people-millions of them-were telling you that you were going to be burning in hell for showing love to the man you married, wouldn't you be a little passionate? If millions were tryign totake rights away form you, wouldn't you outcry?
My passion is my gift-it has allowed me to succeed in life. I hope that through my passion, some blind followers of this dying belief will open their eyes to teh truth-that they will see that God also speaks through man, that it isn't too late to embrace love instead of hate

Now, stop the smugness-your righteous attitude is repellantless

believer-not true-valedictorains could never use public forums at publicly paid for entities to promote religion-that was never the case...dont confuse free speech with following rules of law haha-funny 2bsaltnlight-you dont have even one freedom we lost to list...because we havent lost any You do knwo when you make a statement you will eb called to back it up, right? thats how these boards wo...more

believer-not true-valedictorains could never use public forums at publicly paid for entities to promote religion-that was never the case...dont confuse free speech with following rules of law
haha-funny 2bsaltnlight-you dont have even one freedom we lost to list...because we havent lost any

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I can believe someoen hid this message - how does saving lives deserve to be hidden? some VERY un christian peopel on these boards! Flagged as inappropriate. show When will the churches embrace condom use??? That simple practice would save millions of lives.... It is so sad that the church does not use its position to enact real change in Africa. If they endorsed condom use, they would truly...more

I can believe someoen hid this message - how does saving lives deserve to be hidden?
some VERY un christian peopel on these boards!

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When will the churches embrace condom use??? That simple practice would save millions of lives.... It is so sad that the church does not use its position to enact real change in Africa. If they endorsed condom use, they would truly be doing God's work... Instead, they hold on to old mythological teaching in regards to birth control...so sad and so misguidedless

IMMAYBELOVED-homosexuality is natural-been around as long as mankind it is not filthy!!-show me a straight sex act that doesn't involve fluid, etc LOTS of good comes form gay people-love, children, family units....what are you talking about? so much hate...you protest too much methinks!!

DOC-so, youre saying you believe in striuct cerationism, that the world is only 6000 years old? REALLY???

DOC-you must be reading a different bible-the god in OT is NOT the same as the god in NT-VASTLY different-think most peopel can agree on that!! The god in the OT is wrathful, vengeful, jealous, etc The god in NT is loving, forgiving, etc If hes the same, how did he change? get some counselling? I didnt violate any commandment becasue I dont believe they are from God...remember, you have to B...more

DOC-you must be reading a different bible-the god in OT is NOT the same as the god in NT-VASTLY different-think most peopel can agree on that!!

The god in the OT is wrathful, vengeful, jealous, etc
The god in NT is loving, forgiving, etc
If hes the same, how did he change? get some counselling?
I didnt violate any commandment becasue I dont believe they are from God...remember, you have to BUY the beliefs in order to be held by themless

rachel-generic counselors usually have the same education so they can of course treat straight and gay people some specialize, but not all human beings are human beings generally...

believer-no one is losing their freedom of religion-it is freedom FROM religion Most jobs do not allow discrimination of any kind-religious beliefs should never preclude the law would it be OK for muslims nopt to service ctaholics if their beliefs forbade them? of course not

JAR-many gay people have kids so the spreading of seed still happens.... OK-Im calmer now I just think some of your arguments are outdated and parrotign what teh fearful use against gays I dont think you honestly think those things, do you?

lpepperw-I only post as Norman-stop spreading lies

JAR-please stop that! In pedophilia and beastility there is a non consenting victim-that analogy is laughed at today I was just beginning to like you then you pull that card... I think chrsitians spewing hate is offensive but they have the right do it... come on-youre not that thick-i've seen thousands of straight peopel makign out in public-how many gays have you seen? two? three? You cant ...more

JAR-please stop that!
In pedophilia and beastility there is a non consenting victim-that analogy is laughed at today
I was just beginning to like you then you pull that card...

I think chrsitians spewing hate is offensive but they have the right do it...
come on-youre not that thick-i've seen thousands of straight peopel makign out in public-how many gays have you seen? two? three? You cant legislate what makes you say "ick"

You cant live your life based on what other peopel feel about it-parenst are hurt by their kids being gay? these parents are sick and dont knwo what love is....and besides, who cares? no measurable harm comes form hurt feelings!!

Honestly, if your dad said it hurt him that you were christian and wasn't a mormon, would that matter? would his "hurt" count as anything? no-of course not...for all we know, we get this one life-there may not be anythign after. and hurt feelinsg of parents is not tangible harm and frankly, it'sirrelevant

Your "what if" scenario is dumb!! come on!! you think gay guys have a choice to be straight??? these gay guys, whether tehy get married or not, will always be gay-the population fo gays has been constant since the dawn of mankind-no one that isnt gay will be encouraged tobe gay...mayeb there willbee more experimentation, which is healthy anyway as long as it's safe, but no straight guy will end up gay...

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