Gas-Based Church Outreaches Fuel Debate

Pastor George »

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:39 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

I have to disagree with my fellow posters. They fail to discern the difference between drawing someone to Christ and drawing someone to hear about Him. Paul says, "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" Except for using questionable promotions (like free beer, for example), I see nothing in Scripture to suggest that God disapproves of encouraging folks to come hear the gospel message presented.

Giuliani, Evangelical Rift Grows Over Abortion

Pastor George »

Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:10 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Quote: George, I respect your position on the issue even though I may not agree with it. Great reply though! Impressive indeed my brother.

Thank you for the kind words. Respect for a position doesn't not mean acceptance of it. But mutual respect is truly the foundation of meaningful dialogue.

Giuliani, Evangelical Rift Grows Over Abortion

Pastor George »

Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:33 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

Quote: "How admirable is it to sit back and not vote for anyone which gives your vote to the godless democrats?"

I have never "not voted" in an election. But throwing away my vote would also include voting for someone who favors the killing of children for the sake of science or convenience, who opposes the sanctity of marriage being limited to a man and a woman, and who would most assuredly nominate federal judges cut from the same cloth ... simply because he has an "R" next to his name on a ballot.

Quote: "Is it more admirable to completely give up if your candidate is not chosen?"

Oppose a nominee because he/she isn't my preference? Not necessarily. Because his/her views are diametrically opposed to mine? Absolutely!

Quote: "If I recall... giving up is for the losers, and losers are not in Christ my brother."

The Apostle Paul claimed to be chief of the "losers", but that's for another discussion. Romans 13 tells me two things: a) God ultimately places leaders in power and b) our mandate is to simply be responsible citizens. And supporting a person who holds opposing moral values would seem to me to be the height of irresponsible citizenship.

Giuliani, Evangelical Rift Grows Over Abortion

Pastor George »

Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:37 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Quote: "Please vote for who YOU want to be President, and if they then do not get the nomination, then please vote for your party."

Hmmm ... political party trumps values ... how admirable!