Born Again Christians Favor Democratic Candidates, Says Survey

Pastor Leo »

Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:03 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

mcmbc and mikehow

I just pointed out two of the Democrats "PLANK" issues. I apologize for not getting your point of view on the matter first. You seem to have a grasp on all of the other issues that are out of the will of God. By the way what job do you have and what are you doing about these issues?

I am simply saying that I don't believe their surveys or polls because they don't know who they are talking to. Christians don't support abortion or same sex marriages. I didn't say that people who say that they are Christians, but Christians.

It is none of my business who is a Christian or who anyone votes for, that is why I closed with Matthew 7:21-23. God will sort us all out when we are all judged.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
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Born Again Christians Favor Democratic Candidates, Says Survey

Pastor Leo »

Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:23 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 3

I always wonder about those polls that tell us what Christians are going to do. Let’s see, there are those who say that they are Christians that murder, get drunk (regularly), divorce, murder their babies (you know they call it abortion), rape, lie, cheat, steal, hate, are racist, commit incest, commit adultery, fornicate, shack-up, abuse women and children, in homosexual relationships, never read the entire New Testament, etc., etc., etc. So, why would Christians voting for Democrats be a surprise? By the way, what does being a Democrat have to do with it?

Christians, like every other voting U. S. citizen, will vote for whomever they choose. I suppose in a perfect world they would vote for the least objectionable candidate from their Christian point of view. If someone professes being a Christian, then voting for anyone that STOOD for same sex marriage and murdering babies would NOT have a chance of getting their vote. However, today, Christians are defining themselves by their personal beliefs and NOT by the Word of God or the Bible for you non-believers.

Since the Democratic Party’s Platform has same sex marriage and murdering babies as Planks, then I could NEVER vote for any one of their candidates, unless that particular candidate refuses to support those Party Planks. Not every Democrat supports those Planks. Likewise, some Republicans support those Planks and I would NEVER vote for them either. Of course, that’s just me.

We are voting for the person to serve as the President of the United States and NOT the PASTOR of the United States. The winner better know what they stand for because they will be criticized, ostracized, and ridiculed for every right decision they make. God help them for the wrong decisions.

I pray that everyone will first and foremost, vote their conscience. As SIN is legalized and religious freedom is diminished it will all come back to our vote. Yes, our vote, for city council, mayor, state and federal congressional and senatorial offices, governor, and finally for the President of the United States. The JUDGES they appoint and how much power THEY will have is in our hands before the elections. One day we may find ourselves standing before THEM as they judge us and our beliefs.

For my Christian brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus: “21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? 23 And then I will declare to them, I NEVER KNEW YOU, depart from Me, you who PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!” (Matthew 7:21-23)

Christians will do what Jesus teaches us to do in the Bible. What will you do?

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:56 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

These forums are wonderful. Even people like TheTrueBZ can make up anything he wants and be heard. What a refreshing voice in the middle of all of everyone else's misinformation. I am so blessed by his wealth of knowledge and maturity. WOW, so impressive!

Pastor Leo Bogee

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:32 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Ifeelfine72,

Are you feeling ok?

The Flat Earth Society is a 16th Century organization. The belief that the earth was flat did not originate with this Society. The Chinese believe the earth was flat 500 years before the birth of Jesus Christ. The Europeans were not the first seafaring nations. They actually were hundreds of years behind other societies.

If you go beyond wikipedia’s information you just might discover that there are other sources with accurate information.

I appreciate correction when it is accurate, but what is with this martyrdom, self-pity nonsense?

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:26 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

This is really getting interesting.

Just think of it, all because a young man with Faith in his beliefs decided to challenge the establishment. Leaving society alone or ignoring their blatant attempts to destroy or remove everything and anything Christian will only embolden them.

I did not say that Atheists believe in science 100%, I said I would find it HARD to believe it. If you have faith in science as your source for truth you will always be deceived. Science is not exact, admittedly, but far too many people think it is absolute. On the other hand, Christianity as your source for faith in humanity is always correct. What the Bible says about humanity is correct – “all mankind is sinful” - so if I know that up front, then I am not going to spend my life blaming people for being who they are. I must forgive them because none of us are perfect. I will therefore, put my trust in God and not in man. That is what Christianity is about in the working sense.

I do have a question, where did “ifeelfine72” get that Christianity is the source of the flat earth theory. The belief that the earth was flat was a belief long before there was Christianity. I guess it does not matter. The world blames either Christians or Jews for everything that is wrong on the planet. I guess they have to since evil will never call itself evil.

It's true! Many people hate Christians and Jews even though neither have ever done anything to them personally. You know, kind of like the racist organizations of the world. If you are insecure as a person or race, you just have to blame someone else for your insecurity. Maybe that is why great Biblical leaders such as Joshua and Gideon, who were both BLACK JEWISH MEN, were not acknowledged for being so.

Jesus said that they will hate you as they have hated Me. Can you believe it, He was right? Does it make you wonder if Jesus was right about anything else, scientifically speaking, probably not?

This is the End Times. Evil is called good and good is called evil. Everything is right on schedule with the Lord. Hang on to your beliefs and they will take you directly to the reward that you deserve. "Whoever rewards evil for good, evil will not depart from his house" Proverbs 17:13. Of course this scripture is not scientifically proven, so it must not be true, just ignore it.

Are you Ready? Are you Sure? I pray that you are.

MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all,

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:11 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

I find it hard to believe that even an Atheist would believe in “science” 100%. If it cannot be proven by “science” then it is not true? Now, that is absurd. Science has been wrong on millions of issues. Science isn’t reality – it is theory.

At one time the entire world believed that the earth was flat because the scientist of the day said so. Theory is unknown and unproven issues. How many times has science declared that they have found the answer to, you name it, and then realized that they didn’t? Basing your belief system on science guarantees that you will never know the truth about anything. Creation is so dynamic that science has to make up theories to disprove it, like the “Neanderthal Man Theory LIE.” Don’t teach my children about evolution, unless you say it is a THEORY.

I am not saying that science is not important to the development of humanity, but let’s keeps it in its proper perspective. Human beings decide on truth by the scientific tests that they MAKE UP. If the earth is millions of years old because of carbon dating, then who decided that carbon dating is real? It is not a real, but a theory.

I have a respect for science. I spent 10 years in pharmacy and studied science for years, but at no time did I look to science for answers for human behavior. EVERYTHING that the Bible says about humanity is true. Humanity is sinful, not basically good, as science would have you believe. Humanity seeks after self-gratification because that is how humanity was created. Humanity has FREE WILL, therefore the ability to choose between good and evil. (Of course you can deny that there is evil or a devil and just go on believing that humanity is good and ignore the devastation that humans do to other humans.) Free will demands that there be choices directly opposite of each other. Humanity will always choose evil unless there is some power greater to direct them away from evil.

The Bible, the Word of God, Jesus the Christ is the power that directs humanity away from evil on to love. Because humanity is not perfect, and it never will be, no one will live right all the time. It is the pursuit of love, loving, and turning away from evil that separates humanity from its sinful nature. Biblical Christianity (because the playing field is filled with numerous non-Biblical players) COMMANDS humans to love one another and to love their neighbor as they love themselves. The hard part is the loving ourselves command. It is a life’s work and pursuit, discovering how to love ourselves so that we can truly love someone else. However it is a life so much better with love than without it.
I better add, that love is NOT a feeling or an emotion and it is certainly not some sexual act, it is 1 Corinthians 13:4-8.

I SPEAK ONLY FOR MYSELF! Christianity is worth defending.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:40 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

I believe that everyone, including Christians, have problems believing EVERYTHING that the Bible says. However, the things that I don’t understand (quite a substantial amount of the Bible) I don’t declare not to be true. God’s commands do not say do only what you understand or agree with. It is by my obedience that I do what the Bible says when FAITH is required. Faith has NOTHING whatsoever to do with reason. If I can reason it, then I don’t need faith to believe it or to obey it.

I was raised Catholic. I attended Catholic school for 12 years in the 50-60’s (I was born in 1947). I did not think that I was a Christian, but a Catholic. I never read the Bible; I prayed to all of the “saints” and Mary; I went to church once or twice a year in my adult life for over 20 years, and my life was a disaster and death was calling for me. I did not know about the promises in the Bible or that they mattered.

I don’t have to prove to anyone that Jesus is my Lord and Savior or that He is the only way for salvation and eternal life. How can I ever prove the truth of this to anyone? By faith, I believe it and only by another person’s faith will they believe it. “…God has dealt to each one a measure of faith” Romans 12:3 (this measure of faith is to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior). We all have it, but it is completely up to each person to use it or ignore it.

I served on active duty for 25 years. I served in Vietnam; went through 2 divorces; have hurt and have been hurt by too many people to count; I have seen hundreds of dead, wounded, sick, and hopeless people, but I never knew that there were answers that made sense of all of this chaos on the earth. At 41 years young, I found out about the Bible and the rest, as they say, is history.

I know what I have lived through and no one can tell me that Jesus is not real in my life. I have been too close to death and destruction, far too many times not to recognize that I have found the Truth and more importantly, the source of the Truth for my life. Others may not have to read the Old Testament over a dozen times or the New Testament over 50 times in order to believe it, but I did and continue to do it.

Christians have a right to stand up for the Bible and the right to stop blatant attacks against what we believe. Bullies, like this teacher, use fear to shove their beliefs down others throat. Chad did the right thing to fight back. I hope he doesn’t let anyone tell him to back off. His parents should be proud of him.

If it is absurd to believe that the Bible is the written word of God, then so be it. Death is certain and so is eternal life after death. No one will be left out! What truth do you know to stand on?

Are you ready? Are you sure?

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Student Sues History Teacher Over Anti-Christian Comments

Pastor Leo »

Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:27 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

(TokenSP, “I just can’t fathom why they would do it in such an absurd way as to believe the Bible 100%.”)

Chad Farnan and his parents are absolutely correct in putting a stop to teachers who push their personal religious or non-religious agenda on defenseless students. Give on to Caesar the things that are Caesars, including lawsuits against non-Christians. It is being Christian to stand for the Word of God. “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force” Matthew 11:12. It is called spiritual warfare and it is real.

Of course it is absurd for you to grasp anything that the Bible states. Christianity is totally based on Faith in the TRUTH of the written word of God. It is NOT based on proof or proving anything to anybody. If you don’t believe that Jesus the Christ is the Son of God, was born, lived on this earth, died for the sin of all mankind, was raised from the dead by God, and is now in heaven; then why would you believe anything else about the Bible. Jesus is the reason for Christian Bible. Jesus is the Word of God. If you cannot accept Jesus, then why would you accept His scriptures?

What other way is there to believe the Bible, accept 100% of it? I guess people are supposed to pick and choose the scriptures that they like and believe them and not believe the scriptures that they don’t like? Of course, that is exactly what people are doing today. It is ALL or nothing with God. There are no fence walkers or lukewarm Christians because Jesus said that He would “VOMIT THE LUKEWARM (CHRISTIANS) OUT OF HIS MOUTH” Revelation 3:16. He said in Matthew 7:21-23, “I never knew you” to those who practice lawlessness (disobedience of the Word of God, the scriptures).

We all have free will to believe whatever we choose and nobody can make anyone else believe anything that they choose not to believe. They may be able to make you say it, but they cannot make you believe it. Additionally, God will not make anyone believe anything that they do not want to believe either. So, why all the energy from any NON-BELIEVER about Christian beliefs? You certainly cannot fathom it, but that is your choice and you have a right to it.

Christians are ostracized about anything and everything that they say and do, around the world. However, the world should expect to reap what they have sown and are sowing against Christianity. Atheists, homosexuals and others rant, rave, and file lawsuits against anything Christian (including Christmas – now that is absurd), yet expect to promulgate and FORCE their agenda anytime, anywhere, and to anybody they choose with impunity. No longer!

The End Times are here. Are you Ready? Are you Sure?

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Paula White: I'm Not Going to Draw Back

Pastor Leo »

Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:10 pm Agree: 36   Disagree: 2

Just thought I had better repeat this message.

Divorces are a direct result of sin, sinning, and sinful behavior. Divorce occurs in marriages long before either person files the paperwork. Divorce is supposed to be the solution to an irresolvable problem in the marriage. Is there a problem in any Christian’s life that the Lord cannot resolve? Is there any sin too great that the Lord cannot forgive?

God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16! God did not say adultery was grounds for a divorce. It is not the adultery, but the hardness of your heart that demands a divorce. Adultery can be forgiven, but a harden heart is too prideful to forgive or to hear from anyone, including God.

Marriage is a vowed relationship with the Lord. The only other vowed relationship anyone has with the Lord is their vow to accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior. Marriage vows come BEFORE anyone’s “Calling” into ministry. If your ministry is interfering with your marriage, then step down from ministry, immediately, and heal your marriage. It makes you wonder who are Christians following, the pastor, or Jesus Christ? My Bible says to have the mind of Christ, not the mind of the pastor.

The many members of the congregation may choose to stay with a pastor who is living in sin or openly committing sin(s). They may say it is out of love and forgiveness, but not really. It is out of pride and selfishness. A sinful pastor will continue to lead them astray, but it is by their personal choice to follow. Whose voice do you follow? If the pastor’s heart is not contrite and humble enough to step down, for a season of healing, then it is only a matter of time before they fall down and take many with them.

Ecclesiastes 5:4 states; do not make a vow to God and break it; do not make a vow to God and then say that it was a mistake (paraphrased). You, your spouse, and the Holy Spirit have formed a threefold cord. You now, must break your relationship with God before you can break you relationship with your spouse. Who wants to follow a pastor who is no longer in relationship with God?

God has never and He will never tell anyone to get a divorce or to marry someone else because you missed Him in your choice of a spouse. Stop lying about the Word of God. God hates divorce! God also hates lying! I don’t think that God makes any exceptions to His Laws for the rich and famous even if they still claim to be pastors of HIS church.

Pastor Leo Bogee
www.wclandtm.com

Christians Protest Removal of 'Christmas' in Holiday Advertising

Pastor Leo »

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:18 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Let’s not get carried away with the Mithras nonsense. Mithras was not born because it is a made up god from the 1st to the 4th century. The followers copied everything that pertained to Jesus, including His 12 Apostles.

The exact day of the birth of Jesus is not known. Therefore, celebrate CHRISTMAS as it has always pertained to the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is not the day or the celebration that evokes anger, hatred, and the distain of unbelievers, it is the name of Christ!

Christ is who Jesus is to humanity; the messiah, the anointed one and His anointing. The demonic world cannot stand the name of Jesus or any reference to Jesus, such as Christ.

I do agree with not shopping at ANY store that refuses to acknowledge Christmas. Let them sell to the secular only. They curse reference to Jesus Christ and honor all those who hate Him. They are knowingly doing everything in their power to stop the spread of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are driven by one of the most demonic organizations on the planet today, the a.c.l.u.

Please continue to celebrate and take a stand for the rights of Christian, U.S. citizens to express themselves in spite of those who serve Satan. If we continue celebrate CHRISTMAS, then even some of the opposition will be saved.

The End Times is in full force; Are you ready, are you sure?

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Christian Divorce Trends Fuel Debates

Pastor Leo »

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:08 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Chica,

I don’t own these words. If they help you by all means use them and anything else you choose from my website or book. Again, we cannot violate one of God’s commandments and expect another commandment to cover it up.

The consequences for disobedience (sin) cannot be ignored. An un-repented sin of the past is a present sin, as well as, an unresolved issue of the past is an unresolved issue of the present. We all have to deal with them because time will not make them go away.

Wordgirl,

Awesome testimony! Remind your husband that his first ministry is to you. You are his first assignment from the Lord because he vowed to the Lord. Your vows come before any and all calls into ministry.

God bless you both,

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Christian Divorce Trends Fuel Debates

Pastor Leo »

Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Ifeelfine72,

There is such a scripture and it is 1 Corinthians 7:15. It is in the context of 7:10-16. An unbelieving spouse that departs (files for divorce), the divorce is acceptable in the eyes of God. Paul says that the believing brother or sister is not under bondage (no longer married to that person) in such cases. In other words, they are free to marry.

Paul uses the word depart, but it is divorce in the context of his lesson in those scriptures. That is why I said that God accepts divorce in this case because the scripture says so. The overriding scripture, as I stated, is 2 Corinthians 6:14, “do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers.” Disobedience to this command of God sets up the marriage to fail, unless the unbeliever accepts Jesus as their Lord and Savior too.

You can receive it or not, it is up to you. Paul does not write irrelevant passages. I am not debating it, I am simply presenting it. We will just agree to disagree on this point.

Thank you for your concern and challenge, it is right to do so.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Christian Divorce Trends Fuel Debates

Pastor Leo »

Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:34 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

Wordgirl,

Thank God that you had the faith to stick it out and stand on His promises. However, marrying a non-believer is trouble and it will always be trouble. 2 Corinthians 6:14 says, “Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers.” That is why God allows divorce when the unbelieving spouse wants out of the relationship. If they will not receive your Jesus as Lord and Savior, they will not receive you. God did not assign you to get them saved. They are assigned to get you backslidden. You cannot disregard or disobey one of God’s commands and expect another command to cover you.

Christians only have two vows. One is the vow to except Jesus as your Lord and Savior. That is a vow, a covenant for all eternity, if you don’t break your word in the vow. The second is the vow of marriage. It too is a covenant with the Lord and with your spouse. Ecclesiastes 5:4 says, “When you make a vow to God, do not delay to pay it; for He has no pleasure in fools. Pay what you have vowed – better not to vow and not pay”

A Christian marriage is a 3-fold cord. You, your spouse, and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not going to divorce you, so you must first break up with the HIM, and then break up with your spouse. If you say that you no longer love your spouse, then I already know that you and God have broken up first. Because Romans 5:5 says, “Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit.” If the love of God is no longer flowing in your marriage from your heart, then you or your spouse is blocking it. Get right with God once again and He will restore your marriage (give you the desires of your heart).

If you are both Christians, then you are with the RIGHT PERSON. There is no one else that God has for you. Don’t let anyone tell you that you missed God in your selection. A man will find a good woman, to marry, is God’s order for marriage. If the woman accepts the man that finds her, then they marry. When you say your vows, then the anointing for your marriage is released from God. God’s love for your spouse is released AFTER you vow. That is why shacking-up will NEVER prepare anyone for marriage, because God is not in it. Sex before marriage will not prepare you for marriage, because God is not involved in it either.

A woman should NEVER find a man. If you do, then he will rule over you. (The punishment Eve received from God for her sin.) God ruled over her before she sinned. If a man rules over you he will put you on the street corner, abuse you, use you, rape you, murder you, and abuse your children. When God rules over you a man will love you unconditionally.

Continue to trust in God and His promises. It sounds like He is already blessing you both and taking you into your calling in service to Him.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Christian Divorce Trends Fuel Debates

Pastor Leo »

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

Corection to the clsoing scripture from Ezekiel 34. Part of Mark 7:6-7 was copied with it.

"Thus says the Lord God: Behold I am against the shepherds, and I will require My flock at their hand; I will cause them to cease feeding the sheep, and the shepherds shall feed themselves no more; for I will deliver My flock from their mouths, that they may no longer be food for them.
Ezekiel 34:10.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Christian Divorce Trends Fuel Debates

Pastor Leo »

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:39 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

“Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: This people honor
Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship
Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” Mark 7:6-7.

Far too many righteous men and women of God will remain silent concerning this “Tet Offensive” of DIVORCE that is being waged against the Body of Christ. Since marriage is a vowed covenant between spouses and God, breaking that covenant also breaks your relationship with God. You must FIRST break with God in order to break with your spouse. You are in full rebellion against God, pastors included.

Pastors who think that God has given them some special dispensation to build their Own church are in for certain destruction. They use the scriptures to fit their lifestyles. They actually believe that the congregation is their personal property.” They act as if God sent people to them to make them rich and successful. Today, they are no longer pastors, but CEO’S, Business Owners, Doctors, and Life Coaches, how ridiculous! They take and take from the Body of Christ, in the name of the Lord, and hide behind the lie that they are God’s anointed ministers. God’s anointing is for OTHER people, not for the person who received it. There is NO anointing on any self-serving person. They are apparently confusing the anointing with demonic obsession.

How can these people openly rebel against the Word of God by divorcing on the grounds of “OUR ministries are moving in different directions,” what a joke? God’s ministries move in unison. They don’t have a ministry, they have a Club, a personal following. Like Korah in Numbers 16:31-35, those who support their rebellion will be swallowed up and consumed by fire with them.

“Then when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin,
when it is full-grown, brings forth DEATH” James 1:15

I do pray that they will repent for their lies and deceit of God’s people. If so, then of course forgiveness will follow. However, too many people put forgiveness BEFORE repentance. The Lord will forgive them because He gave them the right to repent. However, they must repent FIRST. The excuse that “God knows their heart” is a ridiculous thing to say in place of open repentance to the Lord.

"Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require My flock at their hand; I will
cause them to cease feeding the sheep, and the shepherds shall feed themselves no
more; for I will deliver My flock from their mouths, that they may no longer be
food for them. Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: This
people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they
worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” Ezekiel 34:10

LORD HAVE MERCY!

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
(www.wclandtm.com)

Tutu Slams Sexuality 'Obsessed' Church

Pastor Leo »

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:15 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 1

Is mankind any less sinful today than any other time in history? Mankind will always be sinful and to every degree. God is not surprised at the violence, wrath, hate, or the demonic behavior of mankind today. Individuals may be surprised but mankind is right on schedule.

The church is not obsessed with anything. It is people with their own agenda that are attacking the very foundational beliefs of Christianity. Those who are living a filthy death-style of sexual depravity through homosexuality are vomiting out their personal agenda against Christianity today. They declare that God is a liar, Jesus is a liar, and the Bible is lying when it comes to calling their filthy sexual behavior sinful. They say what does God know about today’s society? So, don’t be alarmed because there is no God, really.

Let’s see, why don’t we focus on AIDS and throw a trillion dollars or two at it to develop a cure? They can spend 100 trillion on it and the answer will be the same, STOP HAVING SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE! I better add, STOP HAVING FILTHY ANAL SEX! Mutating organisms such as viruses and e-coli bacteria aren’t moved by the “loving” homosexual agenda. The very people that propose to find a cure for AIDS are the biggest supporters of the homosexual agenda. Ignore the source and treat the symptoms. Wow, that might work one day, right after Hell freezes over.

Let me translate what I have written, SIN is the foundation of all sickness, disease, and evil in the world. I know that they don’t care or believe that this is true, just as long as they appear sincere and loving and caring and most of all concerned with people dying by such devastating deaths. However, don’t talk about what the Bible says or call their behavior SIN. Hypocrites!

There is no treatment, drug, or cure for spiritual manifestations. “Each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived it gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown, brings forth DEATH” James 1:14-15. Just keep on digging holes along the shore of the ocean believing that eventually you will empty out the oceans. This is exactly what mankind is doing today. Just keep on ignoring God, Jesus, and His Word of scriptures and the results will be exactly what the Lord said they would be, DEATH!

Bishop Tutu, preach the Word of God in your Nation and stand back and see the power of the Lord. This is the End Times and the great falling away of the church is already happening. The rise of homosexuality is in preparation of the coming of the anti-Christ, who is a practicing homosexual. Just preach the Word and the Holy Spirit will do His part to bring all of those who have ears to hear to salvation through Jesus the Christ.

Accept Jesus as your Savior, repent, and be saved for all eternity. NO SLACK!

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Clinton to Join AIDS Summit with Rick, Kay Warren

Pastor Leo »

Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:32 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

Divorce is a sin for one reason; you have broken your VOW to your spouse and to God Himself. You lied! God takes vows seriously as stated in Ecclesiastes 5:4-7.

There isn't a sin that God cannot forgive or will not forgive, 1 John 1:9. Divorce is hated by God, Malachi 2:16 for the reason stated above. If you have been divorced, then do what is required for every sin that is committed, REPENT! If you do not or have not repented for divorcing your spouse, then you are living in adultery with the person you are married to. Only blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not forgivable, and that is another entire discussion.

King David was a murderer, an adulterer, and a liar, yet God forgive him, when he repented. God allowed him to marry Bathsheba and gave them Solomon, who continued the linage of Judah from which Jesus came. Divorce is not an unforgivable sin and has never been. I know that some churches think that way and that is unfortunate. They will accept a mass murderer that has repented, but will not accept a divorcee that has repented. How absurd!

If you are divorced and have remarried and have not repented for your previous divorce, then do it NOW. Stop the guilt, which is from the devil, from making your marriage today a nightmare.

Additionally, divorce was allowed because the HARDNESS OF THE HEART caused by infidelity. God knew that mankind would have a difficult time forgiving their spouse for infidelity because their hearts would be hardened. A person with a hardened heart will not be a loving spouse even if they stayed together. The inability to forgive would eventually break-up the marriage. However, in my 29 years of marriage and relationship counseling, I have seen numerous couples forgive each other for infidelity and have great marriages. The main reason they could forgive each other is the realization that adultery is only a symptom of a marriage that is already unraveling. Pride and selfish desires set up the divorce.

I know what I have shared is hard for most people to receive. We have bought into society's lie about cheating on your spouse. The cheating started with the withholding of love, selfishness, pride, loving your relatives and friends more than your spouse, and other things that did not belong in the marriage covenant. Since God says, "husbands love your wives" then if you do that the marriage MUST work because God cannot lie. The foundation of divorce is HUSBANDS DO NOT LOVE THEIR WIVES. They may lust after them and be jealous of them both of which have nothing to do with loving them. Read 1 Corinthians 13 and see if your definition of love fits God's definition of love A wife will not submit to an unloving husband because submission is a direct result of loving your wife. Ask her how to love her and stop trying to figure her out.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
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Lesbian Ordained in Lutheran Church, Refuses Celibacy Vow

Pastor Leo »

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:31 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

What did the Evangelistic Lutheran Church of “Satan” expect? First they turn from God and openly accept homosexuality. Secondly, a proclaimed lesbian challenges them by disregarding their own rules for celibacy and they immediate fold. If you do what Satan wants are you not his followers?

Maybe the Bible’s even verses are true and odd verses are lies. If so, then homosexuality is in the odd verses and adultery and divorce are in the even verses. Now it makes sense for homosexuality to be accepted today - NOT! Is God bipolar? Does His word ever change on any given day? These Satanic churches must think so.

Christianity is ALWAYS based on this one principle: CAN YOU FIND IT IN THE BIBLE? Can you find homosexuality being accepted by God in the Bible? NO, maybe I must be mistaken because these demonic churches are declaring that it is scriptural. Can anyone interpret the scriptures anyway they choose and still be within the will of God? NO!

If it is not in the Bible it is not in the will of God! (I know that there are many things not written in the Bible, including but not limited to, what type of diapers you should put on your babies. I had to add this because of the barrage of nonsense that people use to attack the Bible scriptures by saying, Jesus did not say anything about this or that.) I’m talking about the things that Jesus taught and/or the Holy Spirit inspired people to write.

Christians can disagree on whether or not women can be ministers. There was even disagreement over whether Blacks could be ministers, but with the “revelation” (it was always there) of God using men like Joshua and Gideon (from the two Black Tribes of Israel) to lead His people, I guess that resolved that issue.

I’m talking about disagreement over issues of SIN. These are no-brainers and clearly spoken of in both the Old and New Testaments. Homosexuality is unquestionably a SIN, to the point of being assigned, by God, as an ABOMINATION in His sight. Homosexuality is such an ABOMINATION to God that He destroyed the cities of Canaan, including Sodom and Gommorrah, killing all of the people and everything that grew on the ground (Genesis 19:24-25).

“as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” Jude 9.

There are no perfect Christian Churches because they are filled with imperfect people. However, Christians endeavor to obey the scriptures that have been written down, and not continue in the sins that brought them to the Lord to begin with.

Please, continue to pray for all of those who are falling away in these End Times.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
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Clinton to Join AIDS Summit with Rick, Kay Warren

Pastor Leo »

Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:02 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

Jc4me,

I know that there are many people who appreciate the Truth of the Word of God. I also know that there are those who will not yield to the Word of God no matter how it is presented. The saving grace of it all is that all we are called to do is to present the Truth, the Gospel of Jesus Christ and get out of the way of the Holy Spirit so that He can finish the work.

Did you notice how people that have never read the entire Bible, let alone the New Testament, are always misquoting the Bible in order to substantiate their point of view? It would be laughable, except for the fact it is so sad. God gave us all FREE WILL and no one can make anyone give up their free will. On that final day, Judgment Day, the only person standing before God will be each individual, all alone, with no one to blame, accuse, or hide behind. “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” Hebrews 10:31.

How can the very people that support homosexuality (which is the foundational cause of AIDS) be called to support the eradication of AIDS? Money and research will not find a “cure” for AIDS because AIDS is based in SIN.

The “cure” for AIDS is to stop having sex outside of marriage, like the Bible says. Sex outside of marriage is SIN and sin produces death in due season. “When desire is conceived, it gives birth to sin, when it is full-grown, brings for DEATH” James 1:15. Homosexuality is full-grown sin and it will always produce death. Go ahead and spend 5 trillion dollars on the research and when you are done, you will be right back where you started. Either obey the Word of God or suffer the consequences. God is not going to change because mankind is becoming more and more sexually depraved.

If you are a Christian, then do what Jesus the Christ teaches. It is all written down in the New Testament. It is not a secret and He does not have any favorites. Jesus said in the Gospel of John 8:43-45, “Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.”

“He who sins (willingly) is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil” I John 3:8.

Believe Jesus! He is the “cure” for AIDS and all the works of the devil.

Pastor Leo Bogee
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
( www.wclandtm.com )

Clinton to Join AIDS Summit with Rick, Kay Warren

Pastor Leo »

Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:28 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

“The foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men” I Corinthians 1:25.

Does the fight against AIDS include taking a stand against same sex relationships? Is the root cause of AIDS from e-coli infections from having anal sex being ignored? Please don’t echo the cry of the homosexual community that AIDS does not have homosexuality as its root cause. Yes, AIDS can be transmitted by other means, but the demonic practice of anal sex is the root cause.

When God said that homosexuality is an ABOMINATION in His sight, He knew that AIDS was one of many consequences of this filthy act. God did not send AIDS or any other sickness or disease to mankind. SIN is the source of all sickness and disease. Of course Satan is the source of sin, he only comes to steal, kill, and destroy, John 10:10.

God is NOT in control of this Earth! God is in control of heaven. Is life on the Earth just like heaven? Adam surrendered control to the devil through sin, and Jesus took control away from the devil and gave it back to MAN. God is in control of the consequences of sin, a just reward for sinful behavior. Mankind is in control of its own sinful nature, through free will. That’s why people should ask God for His mercy that can override His justice. If you don’t know God through His Son, Jesus, then you can’t ask Him for His mercy.

How can people like those who support same sex marriage initiatives, the homosexual agenda, and abortion (murdering babies) be asked to give their support to fight AIDS, when they support the very foundation of the cause of AIDS? The planks of their Party include same sex marriage, abortion, and the homosexual agenda. Is this too deep to understand, or does God want His Church to ignore homosexuality, or is God a liar? God is not a liar. The consequences for homosexuality brought fire and brimstone from heaven 4,000 years ago. Today, AIDS is just an early warning of the impending disaster that is sure to follow called eternal damnation.

Do Christian “leaders” actually believe that AIDS will be cured by money and research? Did I miss something? Could anyone name a SIN that has been “cured” with money and research? STOP HAVING SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE AND IN ONE GENERATION, AIDS WILL BE ELIMINATED! This is not rocket science, it’s called Truth. Stop trying to put out this sinful fire by throwing political matches at it.

A long long time ago, all the people of the Earth got together to build a tower. They wanted to show God that they did not need Him. They could do anything their little minds could conceive, even make their own access to heaven. They failed then and they are failing now to bring God down to their level. Obey God or suffer the consequences.

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil” Isaiah 5”20.

Pastor Leo J Bogee Jr
World Christian Leadership & Training Ministries
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