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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
Your completely missing his point and totally over reacting. He is simply outlining the Muslim perspective that the Koran is the holy incarnate presence of God on earth to explain (not justify) their response. They (not us) see the Koran the same way we (not them) see Christ. That doesn't mean its correct or that he agrees - only that it is the way Muslims see it.
We have completely lost track of the purpose of education. It should never solely be about learning the facts & theories. We do a terrible job of teaching our kids HOW to learn and then think critically about what they learn. I am a Christian and have no problem with teaching evolution. I do have an issue with when it is taught and how competing ideas are not effectively introduction - THEN n...more
We have completely lost track of the purpose of education. It should never solely be about learning the facts & theories. We do a terrible job of teaching our kids HOW to learn and then think critically about what they learn. I am a Christian and have no problem with teaching evolution. I do have an issue with when it is taught and how competing ideas are not effectively introduction - THEN not teaching our kids how to dialog around the ideas. The dogma on both side is thread is not useful and its off point.less
It's one thing to let adults make stupid decision on their own, but we should be protecting our kids from these shows. This is a MA rated show in the US (highest level allowable on TV) which means its meant for adults - sounds to me like child pornography. I blocked this show and even its title from my TV.
I think material like this says more about the atheist than the Christians as long as we approach the issue properly. We should NOT shy away from the likes of these, DaVince Code, or Zeitgiest, but see them as opportunities to shine. That will set us a part more than attacking or retreating into our pews.
Keep reading. This is not for your sake for others sake lest they stumble. I don't see how accepting someone into your BUSINESS (not home) would cause someone else to see this lifestyle as acceptable. By your logic, we should then not let any homosexual have access to any business that any Christian owns. Clearly, that can't be the answer.
RevRan - I took your advise and re-read 1 Cor 8&10. I think it only makes my point clearer. The food offered to idols only has status to the extent ascribed by those making the offering. As Christians, we know such offerings are made to "an idol (which) has no real existence" and are thus meaningless. Accordingly, we are to "eat whatever is set before (us) without raising any question on the gr...more
RevRan - I took your advise and re-read 1 Cor 8&10. I think it only makes my point clearer. The food offered to idols only has status to the extent ascribed by those making the offering. As Christians, we know such offerings are made to "an idol (which) has no real existence" and are thus meaningless. Accordingly, we are to "eat whatever is set before (us) without raising any question on the ground of conscience." The critical distinction to be made is between tolerance with love and validation with celebration. We are to do the former and not the later,
Cor 10;31-33 sets the boundaries on how we are to act under these situations. And, I ask you, "Which would you expect to see Jesus or Paul do - turn away from this couple or invite them to see how Christian's should live, or at best a conversation that could be life changing?"less
Its important to remember that this occurred in the UK, where civil unions are the law of the land, and not in the US. These owners have a choice to make - either follow the law or choose another line of business that fits into their belief system. Early Christians didn't have the luxury of the majority and had to make these decision everyday. They had to separate themselves by the way they act...more
Its important to remember that this occurred in the UK, where civil unions are the law of the land, and not in the US. These owners have a choice to make - either follow the law or choose another line of business that fits into their belief system. Early Christians didn't have the luxury of the majority and had to make these decision everyday. They had to separate themselves by the way they acted towards their neighbors, not be rejecting them but by loving them. It was during that time which Christianity grew the most and we have lost that. However, for those on the other side, you should be willing to accept tolerance and love rather than expecting validation and celebration. These are two very different paradigms.
Pastor Mark has it wrong. By accepting the visitors with the grace of God's love, you would not be violating His Highest Law but abiding by it. Only if somehow the owners were forced to participate in the couples personal activities, would it violate His Law; and I don't see that as being very likely.less
Religions is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" or "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects." Granted, it often involves superhuman agencies but its not a requirement- at least in the strict sense of the definition.
It wasn't until I became a Christian as an adult that I recognized the perceived intolerance I previously felt was more a reflection of my failings than true intolerance by Christians. Clearly there are many examples of individuals not properly reflecting the message and image of Christ. I can't excuse that. But, I believe many non-believers are not looking for tolerance but are demanding valid...more
It wasn't until I became a Christian as an adult that I recognized the perceived intolerance I previously felt was more a reflection of my failings than true intolerance by Christians. Clearly there are many examples of individuals not properly reflecting the message and image of Christ. I can't excuse that. But, I believe many non-believers are not looking for tolerance but are demanding validation of their worldview. That was never the purpose of Christ and is not reflected in the gospel. In fact, he was quick to point out the failures with the message to change. The gospel is both a bright light into the world but also a mirror through which we should see ourselves for what we truly are. Until someone does that, they can't truly accept the message of Christ.less
The distinction here is that this video delivery is in a home church setting. One individual watching on the PC because he/she doesn't want to go outside is materially different than what is being discussed in this article. But, even that can work for people in countries where the message is hard to get otherwise. Checkout LifeChurch.tv web based chat sessions. Lot of international participati...more
The distinction here is that this video delivery is in a home church setting. One individual watching on the PC because he/she doesn't want to go outside is materially different than what is being discussed in this article. But, even that can work for people in countries where the message is hard to get otherwise. Checkout LifeChurch.tv web based chat sessions. Lot of international participation. Personally, I am feeling less and less connected and valued as my church become more "successful" and larger. My wife and I are seriously considering this same model in our neighborhood to reach people who wouldn't otherwise go.less
Posters so far are missing the point completely. Greg's key msg is that he wants to inspire LifeChurch to think and act like a start up church, which is typically (yes, that's a generalization) more dynamic, energetic and open. He is rejecting the Mega Church mentality not the label. If you haven't checked out the msgs, I would highly recommend it. We listen to him in addition to attending ou...more
Posters so far are missing the point completely. Greg's key msg is that he wants to inspire LifeChurch to think and act like a start up church, which is typically (yes, that's a generalization) more dynamic, energetic and open. He is rejecting the Mega Church mentality not the label. If you haven't checked out the msgs, I would highly recommend it. We listen to him in addition to attending our local church. To me, he is one of the most authentic pastors out there today.less
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