'The Fellowship Church pastor urged church and ministry leaders to "smell out" dishonor among their members and colleagues and drill into it with inquisition, saying they should "make them fish or cut bait." Another Baptist who wants a purge and he cites David (I killed Uriah because I got his wife pregnant) as the honorable guy.

Native Americans agree, Tell Europeans to go home now please.

Poor fellow.

While the Bible doesn't give you much info on sex, can find out pretty much anything you want to know with a good library.

I am not among those trying to make a buck off of Bieber. The kids voice is changing and he has a long way to go to adulthood. Hope he makes it.

"Army Chaplain Lt. Col. Carleton Birch said Wednesday that chaplains already have experience in counseling homosexual soldiers and will likely be able to adjust easily to an openly homosexual military." Of course Dan thinks all chaplains are being honest except when they disagree with Dan.

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." -Thomas Jefferson

Good evil and evil good? Check this one. "Have you heard the latest out of South Dakota? A right-wing state legislator, in an effort to advance the embryos-are-citizens-too movement and demolish a woman's right to choose, has introduced a bill which would make homicide "justifiable" if done to protect the life of an unborn child. "

Have you heard the latest out of South Dakota? A right-wing state legislator, in an effort to advance the embryos-are-citizens-too movement and demolish a woman's right to choose, has introduced a bill which would make homicide "justifiable" if done to protect the life of an unborn child.

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Have you heard the latest out of South Dakota? A right-wing state legislator, in an effort to advance the embryos-are-citizens-too movement and demolish a woman's right to choose, has introduced a bill which would make homicide "justifiable" if done to protect the life of an unborn child. hide

kilt? How did this become about Scottish clans? Up the McAndrews.

"Our idea of God tells us more about ourselves than about Him." — Thomas Merton

Sorry you are not intelligent enough to grasp that the reference to ethnic or racial group does not exhaust the the category of bigotry. It is the hatred and intolerance toward a group (women in ministry, gay people) for no rational reason except blind prejudice.

It is good to know you are an equal opportunity bigot.

"The Wisconsin committee that charged DeLong appeared almost reluctant in doing so, suggesting in a statement with its charging document that it had no choice under church laws. It praised her courage and described the charges as "fundamentally unjust." "The Committee fears that the United Methodist Church . . . is at grave risk of forever losing the infinite talents, gifts and grace that gay a...more

"The Wisconsin committee that charged DeLong appeared almost reluctant in doing so, suggesting in a statement with its charging document that it had no choice under church laws. It praised her courage and described the charges as "fundamentally unjust."

"The Committee fears that the United Methodist Church . . . is at grave risk of forever losing the infinite talents, gifts and grace that gay and lesbian clergy bring to make the (church) a better, stronger, more vibrant place," the statement says." Kansas City Star


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/05/2634039/lesbian-methodist-minister-faces.html#ixzz1E4yArgUuless

From the Interounty Leader article "Steve Briggs, speaking not on behalf of the church but as a single member, said Pastor Amy “served our Grantsburg congregation wonderfully for six years. She and her partner, Val, contributed to our church life in so many positive ways. There is no question that God has richly blessed Amy with gifts of ministry.” Briggs said many pastors have said DeLong is...more

From the Interounty Leader article "Steve Briggs, speaking not on behalf of the church but as a single member, said Pastor Amy “served our Grantsburg congregation wonderfully for six years. She and her partner, Val, contributed to our church life in so many positive ways. There is no question that God has richly blessed Amy with gifts of ministry.”
Briggs said many pastors have said DeLong is “the finest pastor I’ve ever heard.”
Even the panel that brought charges against DeLong praised the minister’s courage and criticized the church laws that required the charges be issued.
The Rev. Joretta Marshall of Brite Divinity School in Forth Worth, Texas, said the trial of Amy DeLong represents “another chapter in the church’s struggle for its soul.” She said DeLong is being brought to trial only because of her willingess to live openly and honestly and offer pastoral care to those who turn to the church and its leadership.
Marshall says the church and its unwillingness to respond faithfully to God in this case is what has brought about this conflict.
“The church itself is on trial as the world watches once again to see if the insitutional church can break open its soul to hear God’s call to embrace a new way of being a church,” Marshall said in a video statement posted on the Web site loveontrial.org"less

Richard Rohr hits it on the nose when he says we prefer to surround ourselves with clones, those who reflect back our own prejudices, hates, and fears. "One outcome of the present predicament is that we despise the poor, however we may describe them. We marginalize them, push them to the periphery, try to keep away from them. The poor — today it's the mentally or physically handicapped, minorit...more

Richard Rohr hits it on the nose when he says we prefer to surround ourselves with clones, those who reflect back our own prejudices, hates, and fears. "One outcome of the present predicament is that we despise the poor, however we may describe them. We marginalize them, push them to the periphery, try to keep away from them. The poor — today it's the mentally or physically handicapped, minorities, refugees, the addicted, homosexuals, prisoners, anybody who has failed to meet the expectations of the majority in the economic or social success system — represent what we are most afraid of and deny in ourselves."

"Because we are so afraid of nonsuccess, of being a refugee, not having a home, afraid of the opposite masculine or feminine parts of our own souls, we marginalize whoever represents those parts of our soul that we deny. We hate in them what we are afraid to admit in ourselves. We keep ourselves at a distance from handicapped people because every one of us fears our own handicaps. We separate ourselves from retarded people. They're a threat to our supposedly rational world. We surround ourselves, unfortunately, with clones of ourselves."
— Richard Rohr, "Job and the Mystery of Suffering: Spiritual Reflections"less

"Stalin however was forced to learn the language of instruction (Russian)during his school life at the Gori church school which he attended between 1888 until 1894. Suposedly the best pupil in the school, "Soso" as his friends referred to him earned a full scholarship to the Tbilisi Theological Seminary and later became leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). At one point he s...more

"Stalin however was forced to learn the language of instruction (Russian)during his school life at the Gori church school which he attended between 1888 until 1894. Suposedly the best pupil in the school, "Soso" as his friends referred to him earned a full scholarship to the Tbilisi Theological Seminary and later became leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).
At one point he studied for priesthood, and during this time read forbidden literature, including the works of German political philosopher Karl Marx, but prior to his graduation, he quit to become a full-time revolutionary."less

So according to you, the operation of the human psyche, the effort to explore, understand and use the knowledge to help those who suffer is a liberal practice. Perhaps you experience it in this way because of your own need to protect yourself from change. Perhaps you fear to know yourself and prefer a rigid belief system that tells you what is and is not acceptable. In any case, it is interesti...more

So according to you, the operation of the human psyche, the effort to explore, understand and use the knowledge to help those who suffer is a liberal practice. Perhaps you experience it in this way because of your own need to protect yourself from change. Perhaps you fear to know yourself and prefer a rigid belief system that tells you what is and is not acceptable. In any case, it is interesting that you chose to work for 30 folk whom you believed to be antithetical to the foundation of your belief system.less

The thing is Polycarp, the do as we say or burn in Hell theology, works for those full of fear and anxiety. But many see through the intimidation technique.