"Understood. This might be hard for you to imagine (if the tables were turned I'm pretty sure it woud be for me), but most gay people (except of course for those who are atheists) have confronted the religious question deeply and seriously. They prayed and prayed and prayed over it. None take it lightly. " I disagree, that goes back to following the rules vs not following the rules. God wants ...more

"Understood. This might be hard for you to imagine (if the tables were turned I'm pretty sure it woud be for me), but most gay people (except of course for those who are atheists) have confronted the religious question deeply and seriously. They prayed and prayed and prayed over it. None take it lightly. "

I disagree, that goes back to following the rules vs not following the rules. God wants us to follow the rules that is why they have been written down so that we follow them with a Heart to Please the Lord. By not following those rules it shows a disrepect for the Lord...less

"No what it means is that some people want children kept dumb so that they grow up to be adults who can be controlled by a theocracy. Basically, it is the antithesis of what America has always stood for." No Evolutionists want everyone controlled by "the Party" and the only way to do that is to prevent people from thinking for themselves...

"Evolution does not have all the answers-just a fe wof them-but they make a lot more sense that "something snapped its fingers and everything appeared..."" Well given that Man created Evolution and Man allows people to die on a regular basis due to Greed, I believe God rather then Man anyday...

"How come humans have failing eyesight and wild animals do not?" How do you know wild animals don't have bad eyesight, Dog's go blind all the time when they get old just has humans do, does that prove evolution? No it doesn't...

"Why not? Let all sides be heard, why just the biblical side of creation?" I agree why don't we teach all sides and alow the intelligence of the children show through, oh wait that would mean that they would not be able to control the childrens minds

"This article is completely off-base. There was no "Intelligent Design" intro, there was 50 pages of partially-plagiarized smears against Charles Darwin liberally smattered with crusty old ad hominems about Darwinism being the reason for Naziism, racism, and oh, I don't know, lets say AIDS." I am gonna go off on a limb and say you havent read the introduction yet have you...

"God should be kept in the home and in the church-out of schools and govt Only then will true heaven be achieved on earth!" Really and we will continue to have 16 year olds MURDER so they will know what if feels like... Yeah a great society of murders and rapist will be created with the lack of Christ in Schools...

"Comfort and Cameron can continue to propagate their creationist lies and worship their invisible little friend in the sky while we normal people move forward with new scientific discoveries for the good of humanity." Science can't even figure out how to stop the spread of Malaria or Aids, you think anything scientific will be used for the Good of humanity...

How is it violating the establishment when no religious services are being performed????

"But...eventually that parent *must* let go and hope their child has picked up on the important things enough to make good choices on their own. And that child must eventually move on and run their own life. They can respect their parent forever, of course, but once they run their own life they are responsible themselves. They can come back to mom & dad if they are in a bind, but they run their ow...more

"But...eventually that parent *must* let go and hope their child has picked up on the important things enough to make good choices on their own. And that child must eventually move on and run their own life. They can respect their parent forever, of course, but once they run their own life they are responsible themselves. They can come back to mom & dad if they are in a bind, but they run their own lives."

I agree but our Heavenly father wants to have a relationship with us, but for that to happen we must submit to his authority and in that respect and live by his rules. The more we rely on him and his strength the less we have to ask him for help in a bind...less

I wish I could sign this...

"Cool. And if in praying to god you were directly to stray from the rules and follow your heart more, would you do it? If you really believed in your heart that was what god was directing you to do? Or would you instead ignore that and stick to the rules anyway?" Well I would have to say that I want to be faithful to God, God would direct me so I would not need to stray from what he was telling...more

"Cool. And if in praying to god you were directly to stray from the rules and follow your heart more, would you do it? If you really believed in your heart that was what god was directing you to do? Or would you instead ignore that and stick to the rules anyway?"

Well I would have to say that I want to be faithful to God, God would direct me so I would not need to stray from what he was telling me to do i guess. Its not about following my heart but following God's Will.less

""You absolutely right, God doesn't hate Homosexuals, however we cannot be in his presence with sin in our lives because he is perfect and his holiness would prevent us from being there with him if we weren't also Holy. Now the Sacrafice on the Cross that Christ did for our salvation is what allows us to be in God's Presence. What makes us sinful is by not following the rules that God has laid dow...more

""You absolutely right, God doesn't hate Homosexuals, however we cannot be in his presence with sin in our lives because he is perfect and his holiness would prevent us from being there with him if we weren't also Holy. Now the Sacrafice on the Cross that Christ did for our salvation is what allows us to be in God's Presence. What makes us sinful is by not following the rules that God has laid down for us..."

And since out of the 450 times the word "sin" is used in the Bible, it is never associated with homosexuals or homosexuality, we therefore know that it is NOT a sin."

Well given that that is correct doesn't take away from the truth in law and decrees that God wrote down in the Bible.less

"And if by chance it turned out to be a mistake, god would be right there to help you learn from the mistake and do better the next time. And I believe he would appreciate you trying, and appreciate you putting all your gifts to use in his name, whether it strayed from the exact rules or not." God is always there if we stray so that he can show his loving mercy and Grace, we just have to accept...more

"And if by chance it turned out to be a mistake, god would be right there to help you learn from the mistake and do better the next time. And I believe he would appreciate you trying, and appreciate you putting all your gifts to use in his name, whether it strayed from the exact rules or not."

God is always there if we stray so that he can show his loving mercy and Grace, we just have to accept the mercy he provides.less

"Also, I am a big believer of: why would god have given you these many great gifts if not to put them to use? You seem like someone with a tremendous capacity to use your good judgment to do great things. You intentions are obviously good. If I was following you, and you wanted to "bend the rules" because you had a good reason why doing so would actually accomplish god's will even more, and you ex...more

"Also, I am a big believer of: why would god have given you these many great gifts if not to put them to use? You seem like someone with a tremendous capacity to use your good judgment to do great things. You intentions are obviously good. If I was following you, and you wanted to "bend the rules" because you had a good reason why doing so would actually accomplish god's will even more, and you explained that to me, I would follow you."

I agree to a point, I think everyone has the capincity to do good, I think that if everyone followed God's rules, we all would truly be able to show how great God is with out the need to bend his rules...less

"The way I see it, nothing can ever take away the soverignty of god unless you let it in your heart. As long as you know the truth, that can not be taken away!" I agree with you 100% on this...

""Then I would research the rules they said I wasn't following, I would pray and let God direct my path, that is the way it is supposed to be, God is directing my path and I am fine with that." From the things that you post, you don't seem to be following Him very well." How do you gather that???

"And please forgive me if I sounded like I was coming down on you. Tone of voice doesn't come through email and web postings, but the tone I mean to use with you is one of respect and kinship, even if the actual words might seem to "challenge" you. I don't mean it confrontationally, that's just my way of engaging in a good discussion." I come accross very aggressive most of the time so I have h...more

"And please forgive me if I sounded like I was coming down on you. Tone of voice doesn't come through email and web postings, but the tone I mean to use with you is one of respect and kinship, even if the actual words might seem to "challenge" you. I don't mean it confrontationally, that's just my way of engaging in a good discussion."

I come accross very aggressive most of the time so I have had to learn to tone it back some when I interact with others...less

"My mom was the kind of parent you seem to favor, while my dad told me the ultimate goal and let me figure things out myself (under his watchful eye). I'll tell you what, I learned so much more from him that taught me to apply my brain and my heart to make the world a better place. From my mom I learned how to be a rule follower and to judge other people who she didn't think was following the rule...more

"My mom was the kind of parent you seem to favor, while my dad told me the ultimate goal and let me figure things out myself (under his watchful eye). I'll tell you what, I learned so much more from him that taught me to apply my brain and my heart to make the world a better place. From my mom I learned how to be a rule follower and to judge other people who she didn't think was following the rules properly."

It sounds as though your mother and your father evened each other out if that makes sense. One was on one side of the spectrum, and the other on the opposite. They say opposites attract, sometimes it is necessary to have a good balance of both perspectives...less

"Slacker, I must say I am enjoying this discussion very much. Thank you for your civil manner and engaging attitude. It's very stimulating to me to duscuss this." I agree very much so...