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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
It is interesting how those who are so opposed to bullying are first to bully when given the opportunity. Instead of refuting they want to silence. Instead of discussing they want to censor. The great defenders of free speech end their support when it goes to something they find "offensive". There's a word for that...oh, yes, hypocrisy.
Lost in this discussion is the error that "God sends people to Hell". God "sends" people to Hell in the same way a law judge "sends" a guilty person to jail. It is a matter of justice. We have rebelled against God. We are a treasonous people, breaking His laws and commands and trying to overthrow Him. We are guilty and deserve Hell. The love comes in that Christ stands in place of us at the ...more
Lost in this discussion is the error that "God sends people to Hell". God "sends" people to Hell in the same way a law judge "sends" a guilty person to jail. It is a matter of justice.
We have rebelled against God. We are a treasonous people, breaking His laws and commands and trying to overthrow Him. We are guilty and deserve Hell.
The love comes in that Christ stands in place of us at the judgement and "sentencing". It is the refusal to acknowledge that Truth, to keep up the lies about God, and to remain in rebellion that sends us to Hell.
I have not read the book (and probably won't) because Mr. Bell seems to enjoy obfuscation and pseudo-intellectualism in his stances instead of an honest forthrightness. I'd rather read Jesus.less
Guess that depends on your view of Jesus - if He is God or not. If He was just another profit, then He didn't say anything, but if He was God, as indicated in John 1:1 (and elsewhere), then He said it the Old Testament as part of the Triune God. He also "said" it through the disciples in the remaining New Testament. He also Created all things (Coll 1:16), including the Law. It seems you want t...more
Guess that depends on your view of Jesus - if He is God or not.
If He was just another profit, then He didn't say anything, but if He was God, as indicated in John 1:1 (and elsewhere), then He said it the Old Testament as part of the Triune God. He also "said" it through the disciples in the remaining New Testament. He also Created all things (Coll 1:16), including the Law.
It seems you want to identify yourself by Christ AND your sexual desires and not Christ alone. God calls us all to self-control and not to give in to our base desires. I urge you to do the same and not twist your view of Jesus to fit the desires of your flesh. Please consider repenting of this in your life as I need to repent of it in my life for those things that I desire above Christ.less
Part of the problem with all this quote mining is that they are often taken out of context and out of sequence. Jefferson, for example, had a crisis of faith after he was president and moved away from orthodox Christianity (he had been an elder in his church at one point). What seems clear, though, is that most of the founders were men who held faith in Christ but were influenced by the politica...more
Part of the problem with all this quote mining is that they are often taken out of context and out of sequence.
Jefferson, for example, had a crisis of faith after he was president and moved away from orthodox Christianity (he had been an elder in his church at one point).
What seems clear, though, is that most of the founders were men who held faith in Christ but were influenced by the political philosophies of the time as well. This resulted in a blending of the secular with the religious. Hence "Congress" could not establish a religion but there was no similar constitutional restraint on the states, many of who did have religions so established.less
Here is the problem of 'ecumenical-ism' - you have to put your faith second to the task or job ahead. There is this tacit agreement, or unspoken pressure (maybe even spoken) to NOT proselytize one another. Have seen this in the US pro-life movement and political efforts. You talk about your faith, but in a way that keeps it only as your faith, not a faith the other person needs by challenging t...more
Here is the problem of 'ecumenical-ism' - you have to put your faith second to the task or job ahead. There is this tacit agreement, or unspoken pressure (maybe even spoken) to NOT proselytize one another. Have seen this in the US pro-life movement and political efforts. You talk about your faith, but in a way that keeps it only as your faith, not a faith the other person needs by challenging their beliefs. Their is a culture of just tolerance but one fostered of mutual acceptance of the truth of each person's belief, and the truth of that belief gets put aside.
No where in Scripture are Christians called to make their primary mission - to tell the Good News about Jesus Christ - as secondary to any other good work.
The danger In the ecumenical environment it that the work becomes more important than the reason for the work.less
It is important to help reduce bullying, but why target just GLBT teens? It is based on faulty information (much like the one that 10% of the population is homosexual). Here is the truth about the stats: http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php The researcher quoted: "When I solicit a broad spectrum of youths with same sex attractions, and not only those who openly identify as gay, lesb...more
It is important to help reduce bullying, but why target just GLBT teens? It is based on faulty information (much like the one that 10% of the population is homosexual). Here is the truth about the stats: http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php
The researcher quoted: "When I solicit a broad spectrum of youths with same sex attractions, and not only those who openly identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual while in high school, and asked in-depth questions about their suicide history, I found statistically no difference in the suicide attempt rate based on sexual attractions. Although same-sex attracted youths initially reported a higher rate of suicide attempts, on further probing this sexual attraction disappeared."
This is not to discount the problem - many "teens" consider suicide or think about it, but their solution is that we should all hold hands and sing Kumbya. Truth is, people get bullied for all reasons (their name, their body types, hair, glasses, etc) and we need to train our children on how best to respond to bullying, maybe getting a little thicker skin about it or using problem solving techniques or simply standing up and saying "so what".
I fear that our society is becoming so thin skinned that a 'hello' with a wrong inflection will lead to a lawsuit or jail time.less
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