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Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (JN 8:32)
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I would disagree, Mike. From what I've seen of these ministries over the years, they have integrity. And while they may not have set their ministries up using the same guidelines as Grassley's denomination, I believe their ministries are founded on honest principles. In fact, the IRS has already audited and cleared 2 of these ministries, so that should say something. I believe what you saw from them in these actions were simply gestures of appeasement, also known as throwing a dog a bone.
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believer - no offence taken. If I am not mistaken, you are referring to the adage that satan's lies are based on 80% truth. I have been in hundreds of Baptist, hundreds of AG, and maybe thousands of Word of Faith services. All of these denominations believe in the 100% inerrancy of the word of God, unlike liberal theology. And while all of them strive to teach 100% truth, being human, I doubt that any achieve that goal. But a good test for any point of doctrine is to see how many scriptures it is based upon. And I think these Word of Faith teachers ably back up their doctrine with Scripture. Still, I also believe every Bible-believing denomination has some perspective that is important to the Body of Christ as a whole. If there is a work of satan in all of this, it is that he gets the Body to attack itself to the point where we hinder the advancement of God's full purpose in this world.
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You are right, believer, that was my opinion. But I hope that you will grant that my opinion is just as valid as yours and any of the others who denigrate these ministers. In fact, one could argue that my opinion may carry a little more weight seeing that I have actually watched these ministers over several years to see what their message really was, rather than basing it on stereotypes and sound bites from the media. I think we Christians need to be more guarded in these last days against believing the caricatures that the media has created of all types of Christians, including these ministers as well as Baptists.
It may be true that some of the people who listen to these ministers are naïve and gullible, but don't you think that you can say that about the followers of any denomination? It does not make the message less true.
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I would venture to guess that everyone posting comments against these ministers own their own car, maybe their own house, and certainly their own computer. Can you imagine how much rice and grain could have been bought with the money that you spent on these items, and how many poor people you could have fed with that food? To a person in the 3rd world, your lifestyle is “opulentâ€Â. But I’m sure your conscience does not condemn you as a “bad†Christian because you know that you live by a different standard. You know how to “possess†these things without them possessing you. So, the question is how high can you raise your standard of living and still be a follower of Jesus?
I have been watching Copeland, Dollar and Meyer for several years, and I can vouch that they are all strong Christians, people of the highest integrity, committed to serving God. They are strong enough Christians to where they can posses the things of this world without those things possessing them. I’ll admit not all Christians can do that…only the ones who are totally sold out to God. As a result, God uses them to share the gospel with the lost, to minister to the hungry and hurting, and to bring deliverance to those in bondage on a scale far greater than He could if they were poor. I think most of the people who are condemning these ministers have no real idea what they do for the Kingdom of God. I would encourage all their detractors to go to their web sites and see where their money goes.
Their message is not about “getting money, money, money, money…â€Â. It’s about entering in to the fullness of the blessing of God through our Savior Jesus Christ. That blessing incorporates ALL areas of your life spirit, soul and body.
Good night and may (you let) God bless you.
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People apparently still love to honor the bible with their words; now if only they would honor it enough with their hearts to actually read it.
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There seem to be a lot of opinions being offered that are based on biases rather than on facts. Some of the comments below are close to being slanderous and I am surprised this web site allows them.
I am confident that a legal investigation into the finances of Kenneth Copeland Ministries will uncover none of the underhanded activity being asserted by some of your bloggers.
Also, I think the reputation of the IRS as a thorough investigative branch speaks for itself. To assert that they will not get ALL of the details they need for an investigation is ludicrous.
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It takes more faith for a man to believe himself capable of being God, than to believe in the Creator God of the Bible. No offence, dongard, but it sounds like you are taking one step closer to your pagan roots than one step away from them.
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JM9 - If God does save them, it can only be through the door that He provided: Jesus Christ. If it can be done any other way, then the death of Jesus was meaningless.
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I would like to remind everyone that Kenneth Copeland has done nothing illegal. In fact, just by going to the IRS to request an audit indicates that he has nothing to hide from a legal investigation. He’s only trying to protect his privacy rights.
Also, Grassley is within his rights to review the laws concerning tax exempt status. But he does not have the right to do so in a way that violates another’s rights. If he has to have the Copeland’s financial statements in order to make his legislative review, then he should get it from the IRS. He can have from them within 60 days, so I don’t see why he doesn’t pursue that avenue…if his motives are pure.
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