And I feel sorry for you mike. On this post many people have presented evidence that people are not born gay, something may happen that makes you desire one of the same sex but you are not born that way. We have given you personal testimony, yet you say they must not have been "really gay" We have shown you differant outreaches yet you refuse to listen to what they say and the success th...more

And I feel sorry for you mike. On this post many people have presented evidence that people are not born gay, something may happen that makes you desire one of the same sex but you are not born that way. We have given you personal testimony, yet you say they must not have been "really gay" We have shown you differant outreaches yet you refuse to listen to what they say and the success they have had. We have named books for you to read and study yet you fall back on nit picking outdtated personal attacks on the people who did the studies or started the web site or gave their testimony. i do love you as Jesus commands and that love means I must tell you the truth of Gods word no matter what you wish to hear or names you choose to label me with. Mike you said you have tried to change many times. Does not this desire to change tell you something? God is calling you to repentance and acceptance of His Son Jesus. Let Him change you (romans 12) You must walk the narrow road that leads to eternal life with Jesus and refrain from sexual immorality. His is calling you Mike do you hear Him?
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Sorry Mike one isnt born gay that is a life style you all choose to live. If you wanted to you could be healed from this sinful lifestyle. Gods is calling you Mike repent and accept His Son Jesus as Lord. His Spirit will give you the courage and strength to walk the narrow road. Gods Blessing In Christ Tom

Ah Mike you see in a moral society things that are immoral will eventaully bring down a society. Your liestyle is really just one aspect of this decline in morals in this country that is/will bring and end to this country. As far as you can remember you have been gay. But there is more then one study that suggest that in your baby yearsis where our personities are set. Question do you remember you...more

Ah Mike you see in a moral society things that are immoral will eventaully bring down a society. Your liestyle is really just one aspect of this decline in morals in this country that is/will bring and end to this country. As far as you can remember you have been gay. But there is more then one study that suggest that in your baby yearsis where our personities are set. Question do you remember your first bottle? second? second?or your diaper being changed? How about being told no when as babies do they start to explore things they shouldn't? and this is just a small sample of the things, almost all people can't remember, at a time when our person is rapidly being formed. God is still calling you and He can and will set you free Mike, if you want to be. Heed His call. Gods Blessing on you In Christ Tomless

Ah Mike that is a silly agrument. One this country was founded on Christian standards and for the last 200 years or Christians have stove to bring freedom to those who were oppressed. But in your case homosexaulity is a choice that is at it's core against the laws of nature and if I may be so bold against the theory of evolution (which I hold as a defunk theory by the way)not to mention that ...more

Ah Mike that is a silly agrument. One this country was founded on Christian standards and for the last 200 years or Christians have stove to bring freedom to those who were oppressed. But in your case homosexaulity is a choice that is at it's core against the laws of nature and if I may be so bold against the theory of evolution (which I hold as a defunk theory by the way)not to mention that it is against the very nature of God and His standards.(thats why it is a sin)again His standard is the bases for the laws of this country. The gay life is a immoral lifestyle and as such is contary to this country and it's principles. John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other" Those who are part of this life have the right to do what they want in their own bedrooms, However because it is a choice that right stops when it is done or advocated in the public square as it does affect the overall morals of this country. As such Christian who belief in what Gods words says will always stand up to defend His standards. Because if we dont our Constitution is inadequate to govern us. Mike God is calling you for ask for forgiveness to repent and accept Jesus as Lord. To walk the narrow road that leads to eternal life with Him. Surrender Mike I think you know this to be true,,Seek His kingdom and His rightouesness. Gods Blessing In Christ Tomless

sorry minne they are a adnormal part of nature and since they can't produce offspring, once one or both die their heritage wont carry on. And since Jesus came to save mankind not animals I'm not sure that God is mad at them or not cept He is mad at the fallen state of the world and the continue decline of the world as a whole due to the corruption that sin has wrought, which was brought ...more

sorry minne they are a adnormal part of nature and since they can't produce offspring, once one or both die their heritage wont carry on. And since Jesus came to save mankind not animals I'm not sure that God is mad at them or not cept He is mad at the fallen state of the world and the continue decline of the world as a whole due to the corruption that sin has wrought, which was brought on by man/women in the garden. That brings Him profound sadness and anger at the evil one and those who by choice choose to reject Him and His Son. Gods Blessing in Christ Tomless

kd, Jesus said that many will be called few will be chozen. Christianty has always been in the minority, Ah Bibilical,Jesus following,Shepard hearing, His voice Christianty. One day sir it will no longer be so. Jesus is coming back and whether you like it or not, He is coming back as a King prepared to judge those who rejected Him. That rejection includes twisting His words and living in continual...more

kd, Jesus said that many will be called few will be chozen. Christianty has always been in the minority, Ah Bibilical,Jesus following,Shepard hearing, His voice Christianty. One day sir it will no longer be so. Jesus is coming back and whether you like it or not, He is coming back as a King prepared to judge those who rejected Him. That rejection includes twisting His words and living in continual state of sin. Which includes things like the homosexaul lifestyle, those who continue commiting adultry or are haveing sexual relations outside of marriage. IE sexual sins. So call yourself what you want, but according to Scripture, remember Gods word? you are living in rebellion to God and He will not stand for it. Repent kd turn from your wicked ways and seek His kingdom and His rightouesness. Accept Jesus as Lord and follow the narrow road if you wish to be counted as a Follower of the Way, a Christian. Gods Blessing In Christ Tomless

Amen Prophet, rolln4, Daniel Paul, wbmore, and delighteninthelord it is hard for one not of God to hear the word's of God. May they seek His Kingdom and His righteousness before they slip from this world into the next, Gods Blessing In Christ Tom

By the way KD Jesus doesn't specifally say that He died for you so using your reasoning that must mean you can not recieve Jesus as Lord, noe of can. Only apparently John and Petere and Andrew or maybe the rest of the 12, opps 11. What a silly argument. Seek God and His righteousness KD. Gods Blessing in Christ Tom

kd it is exactly because you chose to change the meaning of what a Christian is, to one that is contary to what God in His word says it is that we question your salvation and your relationship to God. There are to be many false teachers and preacher in the last days. You sir by the words that you write as well as the Mikes on this post tell us that you are one of the false teachers and as such you...more

kd it is exactly because you chose to change the meaning of what a Christian is, to one that is contary to what God in His word says it is that we question your salvation and your relationship to God. There are to be many false teachers and preacher in the last days. You sir by the words that you write as well as the Mikes on this post tell us that you are one of the false teachers and as such you are in need of a Savior that can tranform your mind, to help you walk the narrow road that Jesus said we must walk. Please seek His kingdom and righteousness, repent and ask for forgiveness, accept Jesus as Lord and He will set you free. As for garage you may not care about Christian aproval but you will one day care about Gods approval or dis-approval. Please seek Gods kingdom and His righteousness, accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and get on the narrow road that leads to salvation. Gods blessing In Christ Tomless

heiwin and mikes---Jesus said those that know Him will follow His way. By you all's written words you are not following His ways thus you are nothing more then antichrist trying to make Christianty something it is not. That is as far from being Christian as you can get. Yes we all may know the Bible, (something in which you don't apparently), and when we look at the evidence in the light...more

heiwin and mikes---Jesus said those that know Him will follow His way. By you all's written words you are not following His ways thus you are nothing more then antichrist trying to make Christianty something it is not. That is as far from being Christian as you can get. Yes we all may know the Bible, (something in which you don't apparently), and when we look at the evidence in the light of Scripture the evience is overwhelming that Homosexaulity like any other Sin is still a sin and can and will lead to eternal seperation from God, I believe it is called hell. God is calling you to confess your sins, ask for forgiveness and repent,(turn away from your sins). You can get to heaven no other way but through Jesus Christ and to do that you need to accept Him as Lord and turn from your sins. Please seek His kingdom and His rightouesness not mans. Gods Blessing in Christ Tomless

Mike Believers are told to judge them by their fruit. When I read the life you are living by the words you write I see that you are not right with the Lord. Matthew say in chapter 7 verse 22 not every one who calls Him lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven, only those who do the will of the Father. James 1 verse 22 says "but be doers of the word, and not just hearers, decieving yourselve...more

Mike Believers are told to judge them by their fruit. When I read the life you are living by the words you write I see that you are not right with the Lord. Matthew say in chapter 7 verse 22 not every one who calls Him lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven, only those who do the will of the Father. James 1 verse 22 says "but be doers of the word, and not just hearers, decieving yourselves".
Mike He is calling you to repentance, to turn away from that which you know is wrong, Accept His Son as Lord and follow His way. My desire is to one day see you in heaven and to give you a big fat hug and a praise the Lord cause your there. Seek His kingdom Mike. As for your studies, I don't need to. My world view starts with what the Bible says is true. Anything that says contary to Scripture is wrong, specially when we have plenty of evidence that support our postion. Look towards God Mike. Gods Blessing in Christ Tomless

mike and garage My my you all are judgemental arn't ya's. Instead of using Gods word to refute what we say you just turn your attack dogs loose. Instead of reading the study's we bring forth you just renounce them as not creditable. It is kind of laughable if there wasn't such eternal consquences involved. God is calling you mike to surrender to His Son Jesus to accept Him as L...more

mike and garage My my you all are judgemental arn't ya's. Instead of using Gods word to refute what we say you just turn your attack dogs loose. Instead of reading the study's we bring forth you just renounce them as not creditable. It is kind of laughable if there wasn't such eternal consquences involved. God is calling you mike to surrender to His Son Jesus to accept Him as Lord to follow His way not your man made follow the leader off the cliff way, but the way that leads to everlasting life with Him! That goes for you to garage man only you seem to be a lot further from the truth than is mike. repent garage before it is to late. Gods Blessing In Christ Tomless

i find it interesting that the mike's and gargeguys and kd's of the world when confronted with the evidence both Biblical and secular start to call names and start to do tap dances around the issues. Go rollin keep it coming maybe just maybe when enough light and truth enters into their life they will begin to see the darkness they live in. Mike? kd? garge? Please seek God and His righte...more

i find it interesting that the mike's and gargeguys and kd's of the world when confronted with the evidence both Biblical and secular start to call names and start to do tap dances around the issues. Go rollin keep it coming maybe just maybe when enough light and truth enters into their life they will begin to see the darkness they live in. Mike? kd? garge? Please seek God and His righteousness. Jesus died for you over 2000 years ago because He and the Father loves you, not the love humans have sunk to, but a perfect love. One that heals the sinfull nature. A love that cast out all fear. A love that will heal your hurts, A love that will be poured into you by Gods Holy Spirit giving you the ability to love the way He,(God) intends it to be. Surrender to this Jesus and He will set you free. Gods Blessing in Christ Tomless

Jesus did mike quit trying o deny it. Jesus validate that marriage was between a man and a women and he validated that sex outside of marriage was wrong a sin. You dont have to read between the lines just listen to what God is trying to tell you. You are on the wide road to destruction. You need to repent and get on the narrow road that leads to eternal life. It is what Gods word says. troyg when ...more

Jesus did mike quit trying o deny it. Jesus validate that marriage was between a man and a women and he validated that sex outside of marriage was wrong a sin. You dont have to read between the lines just listen to what God is trying to tell you. You are on the wide road to destruction. You need to repent and get on the narrow road that leads to eternal life. It is what Gods word says. troyg when you distort the word of God and twist what the Gospel is about you are an antichrist so the message is the same. You need to repent and surrender your life to Christ.
Mike the constitution was written by God fearing men and they use the Bible in many ways to frame its precepts. John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadeguate to the goverment of any other" and this is just one quote from the father of this country. Besides why should anyody have special rights when the activety they chose to engage in is of their own choice. Doesn't make sense. Seek His kingdom and His righteousness mike. He is waiting for you to surrender all to His Lordship. Gods Blessing In Christ Tomless

Mike keep trying to leave that life style, keep seeking and asking God for forgiveness, Seek His kingdom. despite what the antichrist troyg has said he is wrong Homesexaulity is a Sin and it is condemed by God in His word. You have a heart and a mind that can escape this wide road to destruction you are on. If, I say if. you repent and cry out to Jesus for His help and His mercy. Go the narrow roa...more

Mike keep trying to leave that life style, keep seeking and asking God for forgiveness, Seek His kingdom. despite what the antichrist troyg has said he is wrong Homesexaulity is a Sin and it is condemed by God in His word. You have a heart and a mind that can escape this wide road to destruction you are on. If, I say if. you repent and cry out to Jesus for His help and His mercy. Go the narrow road that leads to eternal life with Christ. Jesus said it would not be an easy road that we need to carry our cross to endure the temptations to resist the devil and he will flee. We all here who believe in the Creator God are praying for you, praying that you will surrender yourself to Him who saves Jesus Christ and then the healing can begin.
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Mike Jesus quoted and use the, what is now considered the Old testament many many times and He never contradicted what it said. He upheld it. He said mike that He would set you free from the sins that entangle you the addictions that ensnare you. Seek him mike seek His forgiveness, repent and be washed by the blood of the lamb. He is waiting for you. He died to set you free! Try looking at the Na...more

Mike Jesus quoted and use the, what is now considered the Old testament many many times and He never contradicted what it said. He upheld it. He said mike that He would set you free from the sins that entangle you the addictions that ensnare you. Seek him mike seek His forgiveness, repent and be washed by the blood of the lamb. He is waiting for you. He died to set you free!
Try looking at the Narth web site or the study reviewed there. " Longitudinal study of reliiously mediated change in sexual orientation" Jones and Yarhouse. Or read again what has been revealed here in these post about changed lives, You'll dismiss it like most of you who are caught in this life style but the evidence is there if your willing to accept it. To open your eyes to the truth, to take the veil off. What we have been saying here in these post is nothing new and it comes out of Gods word if you have objections take it up with Him, Cry out to Him Mike repent accept His Son as Savior. He is waiting for you to surrender your self to Him and to Him only. He will set you free.
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mikeey--I feel sory for you so i will explain something to you a simple as I can make. God has only sanction marriage to be between a man and a women. period. Sex outside of marriage is sinfull and harmful to any relationship with Him (it is called sin). Same sex marriage would be between a man and man or a women and a women. This is outside of what God has sanction is His word. Thus any sex actua...more

mikeey--I feel sory for you so i will explain something to you a simple as I can make. God has only sanction marriage to be between a man and a women. period. Sex outside of marriage is sinfull and harmful to any relationship with Him (it is called sin). Same sex marriage would be between a man and man or a women and a women. This is outside of what God has sanction is His word. Thus any sex actual or just imagined is a Sin and can greatly impact where you will spend forever. That is what Gods word says. you sir fit the profile of 1st Corinthians 1:18-21 and 2nd Corinthians 3:3-4 to a T. If you wish to become a Believer in Christ you must repent of your sins, ask for forgiveness believe onto the Christ as Lord and seek His kingdom and His righteousness.
Your statement that all psychological and psychiatric organization condem the ability to escape from the gay lifestyle is another lie you have expoused on this site. No to mention the evidence of thousands upon thousands that have left succesfully. We as Christian are to judge by their fruit those who would call themselves Believers. Where is yours? In twisting scripture and defending something God has called a abomination you are at least suspect. Mike seek Him who saves.
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I have watched with more then a bit of embassament about the comments of mikeny and somewhat from kama, mostly mikeny. It seems that even though Biblical evidence for Gods condemnation of homesexaulity is quite extensive, those who are for giving gays special rights (based on their own choice) never ever can qoute scripture without twisting it. Mike never did use any by the by. Instead they play t...more

I have watched with more then a bit of embassament about the comments of mikeny and somewhat from kama, mostly mikeny. It seems that even though Biblical evidence for Gods condemnation of homesexaulity is quite extensive, those who are for giving gays special rights (based on their own choice) never ever can qoute scripture without twisting it. Mike never did use any by the by. Instead they play the hate card or call followers of the way (Christians) names etc etc. Thye provide no proof or evidence of their assertions. There have been several studies in the last years that have stated that those caught in the gay lifestlye can change and thousands, thousands have left and done so with success. (exdous international, Love won out and other minisries) So instead of the gay community celebrating the victory for these people they rack them over the coals calling them all kinds of names and slander. Hmmmmm Me thinks that for you who are caught in that trap don't wish others to leave because misery loves company so you spread your lies and half truths trying to convince even the elect if it were possible. Shame on you I agree with rollin, you need to seek God with all you have, leave it at the Cross and He who rules will reveal His truth to you. You need to repent and follow Jesus. We will be praying for you. Gods Bleessing In Christ Tomless

All I knows is that Jesus wouldn't vote for someone who is for the killing of unborn babies or the embracing of sinful lifestyles. Gods Blessing in Christ Tom

And feelfine at least from prophets writtings he is bearing fruit I would dare say that you sir are lacking in that area all togeather with you denying of the truth of scripture and the twisting thereof. Where still praying for you tho. Gods Blessing In Christ Tom